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Brad Ausmus has some sweet bullpen management skills

Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:12 pm
Posted by barry
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:12 pm
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The Tigers were up 8-6 at the start of the eighth inning, and the ever-volatile Neftali Feliz came in to shepherd the game to the ninth inning and the hands of closer Joakim Soria. Feliz struggled, and his pitch count neared 30 with two outs, two men on, and a run already in. But instead of yanking Feliz and bringing in Soria for a four-out save—or even going to the perfectly solid Alex Wilson—Ausmus left Feliz in to intentionally walk Seth Smith and then try to escape the two-out, bases-loaded jam on his own.(didn't go well)




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Yeesh. To be clear, this is a professional baseball manager justifying his poor bullpen management by pointing out that he was preparing for an extra-innings game at a moment when his team was up by a run and just four outs away from winning. Remember this moment the next time some play-by-play guy tries to convince you that Ausmus is a brilliant manager because he went to Dartmouth.


What is a "one inning guy"?
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 2:29 pm
Posted by 5 Deep
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:13 pm to
A reliever that typically never pitches more than one inning?
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:15 pm to
No way
Posted by piggidyphish
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:15 pm to
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What is a "one inning guy"?



I guess an "OIGY"
Posted by barry
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:24 pm to
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A reliever that typically never pitches more than one inning?



Because guys are incapable of getting 4 outs instead of 3?
Posted by emoney
Westerville, OH
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:49 pm to
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Brad Ausmus has some sweet bullpen management skills(Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:12 pm) 00
His seat is warming up.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:54 pm to
Thankfully, I didn't see the game we blew 6-1 in the ninth. I heard Soria was shaking and fretting and buying all kinds of time since he had no gas from pitching a few games in a row, and it didn't go too well.

All the bitches love Ausmus, that much I can say.
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 2:56 pm
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:57 pm to
The idea of the prototypical closer is somewhat odd to me. You sit your best bullpen pitcher until the 9th inning to protect a lead of 3 runs or less, regardless of situation. To me, when you're into the bullpen innings (7-9) doesn't it make the most sense to bring in your best arm against the middle of the lineup/high leverage situations?

For instance if you have a slim lead and Calhoun, Trout and Pujols are due up in the 7th, bring in your best pitcher at that point in order to best combat that threat. I guess my idea is to let your closer float based on the situations rather than stubbornly restrict him to one inning.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 3:06 pm to
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For instance if you have a slim lead and Calhoun, Trout and Pujols are due up in the 7th, bring in your best pitcher at that point in order to best combat that threat. I guess my idea is to let your closer float based on the situations rather than stubbornly restrict him to one inning.


This is how it should be. I still believe that some guys need the game to be on the line to get amped and pitch well. But if you can't get excited facing those 3 in a 1 run game in the 7th, then you have problems.

I think it has something to do with the fallacy that late game play is always more important than early game play. A lot of times it is, but that doesn't mean it always is the case.
Posted by OneMoreTime
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 3:10 pm to
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For instance if you have a slim lead and Calhoun, Trout and Pujols are due up in the 7th, bring in your best pitcher at that point in order to best combat that threat. I guess my idea is to let your closer float based on the situations rather than stubbornly restrict him to one inning
Yeah, but then they only get a hold instead of a save and who wants that garbage stat?
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 3:27 pm to
It also has to due with accumulating saves for arbitration and future contracts.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 3:33 pm to
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It also has to due with accumulating saves for arbitration and future contracts.



Why should the manager be concerned with accumulating saves for the pitchers arbitration?
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 3:41 pm to
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You sit your best bullpen pitcher until the 9th
They might be viewed as the best only because they only pitch for 1 inning and almost always with a lead.
Posted by rlebl39
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 3:48 pm to
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All the bitches love Ausmus, that much I can say.



Truth. I remember when he was an Astro and every lady in Houston was drooling over him.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 4:56 pm to
It's not uncommon for managers to only use closers in the 9th during the regular season. He might have done different come post season.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:17 pm to
He made his decisions based on the possibly of a tie...while they had a lead. That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
Posted by emoney
Westerville, OH
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:48 pm to
"I wouldn't do anything differently" - Brad Ausmus, Dartmouth Graduate, on his bullpen decisions after an 11-9 loss.
Posted by Retlaw
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Sep 2013
1253 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 7:16 am to
An example of what is wrong with some of the current management and handling of pitchers these days. He was more worried about managing his bullpen than he was in winning the game.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 7:56 am to
I am not saying I agree with Ausmus at all. I am just saying that is a reason that saves exist and "matter."
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