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re: Aside from cheating, what makes a person a "great recruiter"?

Posted on 1/11/16 at 12:26 pm to
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 12:26 pm to
The No Redshirt the First Year on Campus and Promise and Promise a Game in the Players Home State
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Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 12:29 pm to
Saying, "mmkay and aight."
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 12:32 pm to
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The No Redshirt the First Year on Campus and Promise and Promise a Game in the Players Home State


I miss EA sports NCAA Football. I has a sad now. :(
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 12:33 pm to
they are basically used car salesmen

they sell these parents on their bullshite.


you would be surprised how low some of them will sink to get an in with the mother(single parent homes especially).

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Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 12:36 pm to
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I read all of these comments about how people like Ed Orgeron are great recruiters. What makes him a great recruiter? Would he be a great recruiter if he was coaching at ULM?

Is it a combination of school prestige and personal enthusiasm?

same reason some people are good at sales and others are not, except in this case they're selling a football program. it's almost entirely related to personality and understanding people
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 12:37 pm to
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i wonder how common it has been over past couple decades for the head coach/recruiter to bang the recruiter's mother.


In places like Alabama and Arkansas, it's probably pretty common.

I wouldn't sleep on it happening in Gainesville or Missouri, either.
Posted by Agforlife
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 12:47 pm to
Nothing more than a salesman
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 12:53 pm to
You all are over-estimating the salesman part. It's about showing them you can get them to the NFL. It's not so much selling yourself, the program, the University and so on. It's about the NFL for the type of recruits that can win titles.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 12:58 pm to
Ability to forge a "mentor" type of relationship, energy, ability to be genuine (even if you are faking it).... being black and closer in age to the recruit helps out a lot too...

IMO, younger black position coaches helps recruiting immensely...
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:08 pm to
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You all are over-estimating the salesman part. It's about showing them you can get them to the NFL. It's not so much selling yourself, the program, the University and so on. It's about the NFL for the type of recruits that can win titles.


I'm not sure that is the case for the majority of recruits anymore.

If you're a QB, maybe you're right, but the majority of elite skill position players and OL/DL can get to the NFL regardless of where they go to school. Having a ton of players in the NFL is a byproduct of being a great recruiter at a power program. This is a case where correlation does not imply causation.

I'd submit mid-2000s Miami as a perfect example of this situation. They were still sending tons of guys to the NFL every year, but as their results on the field started to take a nosedive, their recruiting rankings did as well. If getting to the NFL was such a concern then you wouldn't have seen Miami drop off the map.

I don't mean to imply that getting to the NFL isn't a priority for elite players, because obviously it is. However, I think many of these players realize that there are many paths you can take to get there.
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 4:25 pm to
Just have to get teenage boys to like you. Probably why Notre Dame was so good for so long.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 5:46 pm to
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I read all of these comments about how people like Ed Orgeron are great recruiters


I know the answers to all of this, due to being able to directly observe now-NFL players being recruited by coaches at LSU. I've seen the good, bad and ugly the five years I was involved with it.

Since this is the Rant, I won't share shite as it is a waste of time.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 5:53 pm to
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Since this is the Rant, I won't share shite as it is a waste of time.



da frick?
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50337 posts
Posted on 1/11/16 at 6:49 pm to
Ability to manipulate 17 year old boys.
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