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Army/Navy/Air Force Football Recruiting
Posted on 12/8/12 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 12/8/12 at 3:39 pm
How does their football recruiting work? Admission to these schools is competitive, I wonder how they field competitive football teams. Does anyone have any insight into this? 
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Posted on 12/8/12 at 3:44 pm to ShreveportTIGER318
They recruit, albeit not at the same level and the same players as the big time powers.
First and foremost they have to qualify academically and be willing to accept the lifestyle and schedule of a military academy. On top of all that is the committment afterwards if they stay and graduate.
Obviously that's a lifestyle and committment that's not for everyone.
First and foremost they have to qualify academically and be willing to accept the lifestyle and schedule of a military academy. On top of all that is the committment afterwards if they stay and graduate.
Obviously that's a lifestyle and committment that's not for everyone.
Posted on 12/8/12 at 3:44 pm to ShreveportTIGER318
I'd imagine that the coaches recruit whoever meets their standards and the school helps initiate the complexities of applying to a military academy like the congressional nomination.
Posted on 12/8/12 at 3:48 pm to ShreveportTIGER318
I tell you what... It takes a special kind of student athlete. I think that they get the kind of players that would go to a lower-tier Division I school or FCS, Div II, etc... Guys that realize they may not have a future in the sport beyond the NCAA level... but are smart enough to recognize the education and benefits of attending a service academy. Their intelligence is reflected on the field and they are well coached to their strengths.
Posted on 12/8/12 at 3:55 pm to yurintroubl
There are also Height and Weight regulations that recruits must meet. Most people dont know this. The Army just cant go recruit a kid that is 6'8" 300 lbs. That recruit would be over the standards of the Army. They are at a significant disadvantage on the lines. It is possible for them to recruit talent at the skilled positions however. Most of the skilled positions fall within their standards.
This post was edited on 12/8/12 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 12/8/12 at 3:56 pm to ShreveportTIGER318
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I wonder how they field competitive football teams.
It's called the triple option.
Posted on 12/8/12 at 3:58 pm to diddydirtyAubie
Thanks for all of the feedback. It seems that when recruiting, all of the stars must be aligned.
I think this is really fun to watch.
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It's called the triple option.
I think this is really fun to watch.
Posted on 12/8/12 at 4:00 pm to Buckeye Backer
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There are also Height and Weight regulations that recruits must meet. Most people dont know this.
As a TCU fan who watched the Frogs go against some very good AFA teams over the years - It always amazed me what they were able to do with the guys that met the requirements.
While running the Triple Option was helpful the the offense... It was always fun to watch the different ways the "smaller" D's would adjust to compensate vs. the competition.
Posted on 12/8/12 at 4:00 pm to Buckeye Backer
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There are also Height and Weight regulations that recruits must meet. Most people dont know this. The Army just cant go recruit a kid that is 6'8" 300 lbs. That recruit would be over the standards of the Army. They are at a significant disadvantage on the lines. It is possible for them to recruit talent at the skilled positions however. Most of the skilled positions fall within their standards.
What about their basketball teams?
I'm looking at their basketball roster and they have two who are 6'10, a few 6'9, 6'7 guys.
This post was edited on 12/8/12 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 12/8/12 at 4:01 pm to Buckeye Backer
The AFA used to provide some wiggle room for recruited athletes. Chad Hennings was an All American and Outland award winning defensive tackle in the late '80s. He later had a NFL career with the Cowboys.
He flew A10s out of Turkey over northern Iraq during the Gulf war.
He flew A10s out of Turkey over northern Iraq during the Gulf war.
Posted on 12/8/12 at 4:04 pm to COTiger
Did David Robinson ever do any service?
Posted on 12/8/12 at 4:04 pm to LSUbase13
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What about their basketball teams?
I'm looking at their basketball roster and they have two who are 6'10, a few 6'9, 6'7 guys.
i'm guessing it's a BMI or overweight restriction.
Posted on 12/8/12 at 4:06 pm to LSUbase13
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I'm looking at their basketball roster and they have two who are 6'10, a few 6'9, 6'7 guys.
Posted on 12/8/12 at 4:09 pm to LSUbase13
He did but I seem to recall he got his committment reduced in return for him doing Navy recruiting ads and other PR events.
My fuzzy memory tells me he got his committment reduced to two years.
My fuzzy memory tells me he got his committment reduced to two years.
Posted on 12/8/12 at 4:09 pm to diddydirtyAubie
It has to be a weight issue. You don't see that many 300+ soldiers.
Posted on 12/8/12 at 4:19 pm to LSUbase13
The academies allow them to put on weight for football season and then they have x amount of time after the last game to get back down to weight.
Posted on 12/8/12 at 4:26 pm to barry
Here's the height and weight table for 17-20 year olds before tape test is administered: (max. body fat % upon entry is 20% based upon neck and navel measurements)
5'10 = 180
5'11 = 185
6'0 = 190
6'1 = 195
6'2 = 201
6'3 = 206
6'4 = 212
6'5 = 218
6'6 = 223
6'7 = 229
6'8 = 234
Let's take the example of a player who is 6'6 300 lbs.
In order for him to pass tape, he'd basically have to have a 20 inch neck if the circumference around his navel (not waist) was 42 inches
5'10 = 180
5'11 = 185
6'0 = 190
6'1 = 195
6'2 = 201
6'3 = 206
6'4 = 212
6'5 = 218
6'6 = 223
6'7 = 229
6'8 = 234
Let's take the example of a player who is 6'6 300 lbs.
In order for him to pass tape, he'd basically have to have a 20 inch neck if the circumference around his navel (not waist) was 42 inches
Posted on 12/8/12 at 4:29 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Here's the height and weight table for 17-20 year olds before tape test is administered: (max. body fat % upon entry is 20% based upon neck and navel measurements)
5'10 = 180
5'11 = 185
6'0 = 190
6'1 = 195
6'2 = 201
6'3 = 206
6'4 = 212
6'5 = 218
6'6 = 223
6'7 = 229
6'8 = 234
Let's take the example of a player who is 6'6 300 lbs.
In order for him to pass tape, he'd basically have to have a 20 inch neck if the circumference around his navel (not waist) was 42 inches
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Posted on 12/8/12 at 4:51 pm to ShreveportTIGER318
My brother was recruited to play football for AF. He opted not to go because his eyesight meant he couldn't be a pilot, and that would have negatively affected his air force career. You have to meet the academic standards, but a lot goes into the admissions process besides grades and test scores, same as any other highly competitive school. So if an athlete may get in even if he wasn't the valedictorian of his class (if he's a dummy, he's not likely to make it, though.)
BTW, congressmen give the appointments for their district, but that's a technicality. They follow along with the guidance of the academy admissions office.
BTW, congressmen give the appointments for their district, but that's a technicality. They follow along with the guidance of the academy admissions office.
Posted on 12/8/12 at 5:08 pm to LSUbase13
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Did David Robinson ever do any service?
Yes, he did two years.
He was under the height limits when he came, and then grew to his current height while in the service (which although made him ineligible for some areas, did not disqualify him from continued attendance).
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