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re: Any notre dame/Arizona fans have to say Arizona did not score there
Posted on 1/3/15 at 5:35 pm to TH03
Posted on 1/3/15 at 5:35 pm to TH03
quote:The evidence was 100%. I don't know how you can argue that. The two synched views show that. Just admit it. It isn't a big deal, bad calls happen every game
There was no indisputable evidence showing that. Watching the replay and using common sense will lead you to determine they scored, but the officials are not afforded common sense. They are instructed to only go by what is 100% clearly and objectively shown on video. They got the call right. Get over it
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Posted on 1/3/15 at 5:36 pm to lsupride87
No it wasn't. You could not clearly see where his knee was. Assuming his knee was up because of the other evidence in the video is not INDISPUTABLE evidence. You cannot assume anything, it has to be clearly shown.
Posted on 1/3/15 at 5:36 pm to TH03
quote:The officials are allowed to piece together different views to come to a logical conclusion.
There was no indisputable evidence showing that. Watching the replay and using common sense will lead you to determine they scored, but the officials are not afforded common sense. They are instructed to only go by what is 100% clearly and objectively shown on video. They got the call right. Get over it
It's pretty simple.
From the side view, we see the ball cross the plane right before he gets hit. But we can't see his knees.
From another angle, we can see his knees did not touch until after he gets hit... but we can't see the ball.
But piecing those two angles together, we know the ball crossed before he gets hit, and we know his knee touched after he got hit.
Therefore, the ball crossed the plane before his knee hit.
Touchdown.
Posted on 1/3/15 at 5:37 pm to TH03
quote:
There was no indisputable evidence showing that. Watching the replay and using common sense will lead you to determine they scored, but the officials are not afforded common sense. They are instructed to only go by what is 100% clearly and objectively shown on video. They got the call right. Get over it
Agree with this, if by "the call" you mean the replay decision. Regardless, LSU was not cheated or screwed. It was probably a missed call and was not blatantly wrong in real time, or anything like that.
Posted on 1/3/15 at 5:37 pm to PrimeTime Money
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From another angle, we can see his knees did not touch
False.
Posted on 1/3/15 at 5:38 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
Yes, I mean the replay. The play would've stood no matter what the call on the field was, because there was not indisputable evidence showing anything.
Posted on 1/3/15 at 5:39 pm to TH03
quote:one view showed knees up. One view showed ball across the line at the same time. That is indisputable. Same thing happened in Bama vs Miss state. They used two views to make a reversal
No it wasn't. You could not clearly see where his knee was. Assuming his knee was up because of the other evidence in the video is not INDISPUTABLE evidence. You cannot assume anything, it has to be clearly shown.
Posted on 1/3/15 at 5:39 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
quote:If it was a missed call, then that means LSU scored. They scored and didn't get the points for it. They were cheated out of 7 points.
It was probably a missed call.
Posted on 1/3/15 at 5:40 pm to TH03
quote:Fact. Have you not seen the two separate pictures?
False
Posted on 1/3/15 at 5:40 pm to lsupride87
I never saw a replay with his knee clearly up at the same time the ball crossed.
And by crossed I mean barely grazed on the pseudo goal line cam
And by crossed I mean barely grazed on the pseudo goal line cam
Posted on 1/3/15 at 5:41 pm to TH03
I just fricking watched the replay. His knees did not hit the ground until after he was hit at the goal line.
Posted on 1/3/15 at 5:41 pm to PrimeTime Money
"Cheated" implies to me an intentional screw-job, but I think we're just arguing semantics.
Regardless, we have no idea how the game would have played out if it was called a touchdown.
Regardless, we have no idea how the game would have played out if it was called a touchdown.
Posted on 1/3/15 at 5:45 pm to PrimeTime Money
Dude, get over it. The game was like 4 days ago
Posted on 1/3/15 at 5:46 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
quote:I agree with all of this. But when we actually have full evidence from two pictures that he scored, just say it is a missed call and be honest. Dont dance around it
"Cheated" implies to me an intentional screw-job, but I think we're just arguing semantics.
Regardless, we have no idea how the game would have played out if it was called a touchdown
Posted on 1/3/15 at 5:50 pm to TH03
quote:I am over it. I didn't even care about that game.
Dude, get over it. The game was like 4 days ago
But don't sit here and tell me there is no evidence when I was looking right at it.
Just be honest.
Posted on 1/3/15 at 5:51 pm to TH03
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I never saw a replay with his knee clearly up at the same time the ball crossed. And by crossed I mean barely grazed on the pseudo goal line cam
so how far past the goal line should you have to get for it to be a TD in your biased little world ??
Posted on 1/3/15 at 6:02 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
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Cheated implies intentional screw job
Considering the video evidence, how can you say it was not an intentional screw job? It was a TD. If you say otherwise, you're either a troll, blind, or a SPED kid.
Posted on 1/3/15 at 6:02 pm to fleaux
Biased? I'm an LSU fan
Posted on 1/3/15 at 6:07 pm to TH03
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but the officials are not afforded common sense
Yes they are, they just choose to hide behind "indisputable evidence". Spineless.
They admitted they blew the call the next morning.
Posted on 1/3/15 at 6:08 pm to TH03
quote:
There was no indisputable evidence showing that. Watching the replay and using common sense will lead you to determine they scored, but the officials are not afforded common sense. They are instructed to only go by what is 100% clearly and objectively shown on video. They got the call right. Get over it
The rules of official review are flawed. That is the problem.
The LSU play was a touchdown. The replay official should go into the review with an open mind, and call what he sees. If he ABSOLUTELY can't tell, then the ruling on the field should stand.
Again, my problem was not necessarily with the call, but more so with just the rules in general.
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