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re: American Football is in serious trouble

Posted on 6/18/12 at 10:55 pm to
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 6/18/12 at 10:55 pm to
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Okay, well a lot less.


based on what? Did we even have the science to study the brain like we do today?
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40109 posts
Posted on 6/18/12 at 10:59 pm to
I really don't think it is just that. With collisions at those speeds your brain rattles against your skull regardless. Just the way it is.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66424 posts
Posted on 6/18/12 at 11:07 pm to
This is a reaction to the game as it was played a decade ago. Currently the NFL is doing more to keep the game safe by having rules on concussions. Also New Technology in helmets helps protect players better. The NFL needs to update what is and isn't acceptable head gear.
Posted by Zantrix
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2009
7940 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 7:09 am to
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I just can't picture a world without football.
Posted by Waffle House
NYC
Member since Aug 2008
3945 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 7:23 am to
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American Football is in serious trouble


Good thing we have the soccer board fired up and ready to go. Excellent foresight Chicken.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 7:56 am to
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Pussification may continue to the point that we are watching some bastardized rugby hybrid.


American football is already a bastardized rugby hybrid...

Not sure how you can put "pussification" and rugby in the same sentence...
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59101 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 8:33 am to
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Just ban steroids


Ignoring the fact that they are already banned, I can see where you are coming from, cause clearly prohibitions always work.
This post was edited on 6/19/12 at 8:42 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59101 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 8:41 am to
There's little doubt there will be successful lawsuits and billions of dollars transfered to lawyers, i mean won by plaintiffs. But I think this guy is over reacting a bit, not to mention that 2 economists already had a similar article on Grantland a few months ago. Smoking lawsuits did not kill the industry. Suing the league out if existance is counter productive. Kind of hard to get big fat legal fees, I mean settlements for your clients, if the golden goose is dead. It is possible and prehaps likely that lower levels drop football over lawsuits or because they can no longer get insurance.
This post was edited on 6/19/12 at 8:43 am
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32710 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 8:43 am to
I think the only course of action is to put all players through a "long term consequences of concussions" class and a clause in all the players contracts that says something to the effect of:

"The NFL and/or equipment manufacturers are not liable for any longterm medical damage to the player. The signee has attended the dangers of concussions class and is well aware of the dangers of this contact sport."
Posted by night83
Member since Jun 2012
656 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 8:43 am to
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I'm sorry, but if you failed to realize that a contact sport has a high risk of injury, then that isn't my problem. This is America though and we love to put the blame on someone other than ourselves and sue the frick out of them to take the easy road out.

If you don't want to deal with the risks of concussion, then don't play football and make millions of dollars. /endrant



The vast majority of players don't make millions of dollars. They don't even have very long careers.

We're talking about very young kids who have no idea of the risks they are getting into, even at the high school level.

For every superstar football player 'doin it big' there are a multitude of broken and exploited lives, so yeah I guess it is the American way.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59101 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 8:50 am to
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For every superstar football player 'doin it big' there are a multitude of broken and exploited lives, so yeah I guess it is the American way.




Spare us the over stated rhetoric comrade. not everyone that plays football gets a head injury, let alone is doomed to a shortened lifespan with demetia. There are obviously some guys that have had serious issues, just as there have been some that are paralyzed. It doesn't happen to most. Unless there is some smoking gun that the NFL knew about the possibility and hid it, I don't see how people were "explotied". The research on brain injuries of this type is not 60 years old, its relatively new. One of the ironies is, they started making stronger, lighter helmets to protect against neck injuries, but alas, lawyers never wnat to hear about unintended consequences.
This post was edited on 6/19/12 at 8:51 am
Posted by peopleschamp
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
6576 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 9:06 am to
No disrespect to the game(baseball) but because of the slow pace of baseball vs today's fast paced society, baseball will never replace football. Thank goodness for this from my perspective. I think kids enjoy playing baseball but you will likely find fan support in most communities for football 10 to 1 or sometimes 20 to 1 at most youth/high school/college football games vs baseball. Baseball has a niche but it will never be a superior product.
This post was edited on 6/19/12 at 9:07 am
Posted by night83
Member since Jun 2012
656 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 9:06 am to
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not everyone that plays football gets a head injury, let alone is doomed to a shortened lifespan with demetia


Must be great to make an argument against a point that I never made. Way to misrepresent. It's a clever tactic but the folks on this board are intelligent enough to see right through it.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 9:14 am to
Is there not an assumption of risk clause in these contracts?
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 9:45 am to
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Yeah. I love the American mentality. You get paid so much more than the average American to play a sport that you love (most do anyway). If that isn't enough you then sue the hand that gave you all that money for not "informing you of the dangers/risks of concussions."

I'm sorry, but if you failed to realize that a contact sport has a high risk of injury, then that isn't my problem. This is America though and we love to put the blame on someone other than ourselves and sue the frick out of them to take the easy road out.

If you don't want to deal with the risks of concussion, then don't play football and make millions of dollars. /endrant


The argument is that the NFL knew that concussions could lead to long term disability but ignored the evidence and sent players with existing concussions into games where they recieved a second concussion.

Look at the policy now - players are held out of games if they experience a concussion in a prior game or practice.

The suit alleges that the NFL knew this, ignored the evidence and sent injured players into games where they were further, more seriously injured.

Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84838 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 10:04 am to
In 50-75 years soccer will be the #1 sport in America
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136798 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 10:13 am to
NFL can name this go away within 2 years with muliple game suspensions for dirty hits

fine dont work because of the money they make

take the game away, and the style of play will change quickly
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166190 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 10:14 am to
Did the article say where this guy's head is at?
Posted by Mephistopheles
Member since Aug 2007
8328 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 10:55 am to
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"The NFL and/or equipment manufacturers are not liable for any longterm medical damage to the player. The signee has attended the dangers of concussions class and is well aware of the dangers of this contact sport."


It pretty much already says this on Riddell helmets.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84838 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 10:57 am to
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It pretty much already says this on Riddell helmets.


I'm not on the players side on this one but just because you slap a disclaimer on a helmet that doesn't automatically absolve you of liability.
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