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re: 2023 IndyCar Season - R17 Laguna Seca 9/10 2:30 pm ET (NBC)
Posted on 8/12/23 at 10:35 am to Tornado Alley
Posted on 8/12/23 at 10:35 am to Tornado Alley
I updated my post on the previous page with the revised starting grid.
Graham could really use a win, although I don't know that he can beat Lundgaard, who really loves this track.
Graham reached his career peak during the high-downforce manufacturer aero kit era, with several race wins. His last win was in 2017, the last year of high downforce before they went back to the standard aero kit. He went from thriving to struggling. From 2018 to 2021 his teammate was Takuma Sato, who won four races, including the Indy 500 for Team Rahal. And now Lundgaard has a win. Graham could really use a win. The End.
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I’d like to see a RLL car get a win in ol’ Dave’s home state.
Graham could really use a win, although I don't know that he can beat Lundgaard, who really loves this track.
Graham reached his career peak during the high-downforce manufacturer aero kit era, with several race wins. His last win was in 2017, the last year of high downforce before they went back to the standard aero kit. He went from thriving to struggling. From 2018 to 2021 his teammate was Takuma Sato, who won four races, including the Indy 500 for Team Rahal. And now Lundgaard has a win. Graham could really use a win. The End.
This post was edited on 8/12/23 at 10:38 am
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Posted on 8/12/23 at 10:48 am to TouchedTheAxeIn82
OMG even Alex Palou's management is tired of his antics, dropping him as a client.
racer.com/2023/08/12/palou-splits-with-management-team/
Edit: Now I'm reading that MIM announced that they dropped Palou after he stopped taking their calls. Looks like they're the ones who got dumped. Former IRL driver Roger Yasukawa is back to being Palou's manager. Roger brought Palou from Super Formula in Japan to IndyCar with Dale Coyne, and later made the deal to move Palou to Ganassi.
racer.com/2023/08/12/palou-splits-with-management-team/
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"Monaco Increase Management is bitterly disappointed to learn about Alex Palou’s decision to break an existing agreement with McLaren for 2024 and beyond,” the company wrote. “Together, we had built a relationship that we thought went beyond any contractual obligation and culminated in winning the 2021 IndyCar crown and tracing a path to F1 opportunities."
Edit: Now I'm reading that MIM announced that they dropped Palou after he stopped taking their calls.
Looks like they're the ones who got dumped. Former IRL driver Roger Yasukawa is back to being Palou's manager. Roger brought Palou from Super Formula in Japan to IndyCar with Dale Coyne, and later made the deal to move Palou to Ganassi.This post was edited on 8/13/23 at 8:28 am
Posted on 8/12/23 at 12:05 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Posted on 8/12/23 at 12:23 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
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OMG even Alex Palou's management is tired of his antics, dropping him as a client.
Well, they may be saving face because it sounds like Mclaren gave Palou money and there was no actual contract. Just an agreement.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 1:28 pm to fightin tigers
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Well, they may be saving face because it sounds like Mclaren gave Palou money and there was no actual contract. Just an agreement.
Yeah it's been clear that Palou was under contract with Ganassi and was prohibited from making deals with other teams until September 1. McLaren is whining about some sort of verbal understanding they apparently had, which is hilarious. It's just slander if they're talking about something that isn't in writing.
So while I think Palou was making verbal deals he shouldn't have, McLaren whining about it publicly is a bitch move.
Zak tried to lure Palou to the McLaren IndyCar team using an F1 seat as a carrot. Last year Palou was naïve, now he's wise.
This post was edited on 8/13/23 at 8:28 am
Posted on 8/12/23 at 1:41 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Wow, what a first lap. DeFrancesco is now a superstar apparently, Newgarden is screwed. Grosjean being Grosjean.
Early pits to switch tires, now we're going to see a lot of alternate strategies. This makes the race more interesting and hard to predict.
Plus DeFrancesco is legitimately leading the race.
Early pits to switch tires, now we're going to see a lot of alternate strategies. This makes the race more interesting and hard to predict.
Plus DeFrancesco is legitimately leading the race.
This post was edited on 8/12/23 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 8/12/23 at 2:03 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
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So while I think Palou was making verbal deals he shouldn't have, McLaren whining about it publicly is a bitch move.
Zak tried to lure Palou to the McLaren IndyCar team using an F1 seat as a carrot. Last year Palou was naïve, now he's wise.
Alpine is like
Posted on 8/12/23 at 2:09 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
DeFrancesco’s livery is quite something
Posted on 8/12/23 at 3:04 pm to jefforize
Dixon leading with 15 to go
Posted on 8/12/23 at 3:10 pm to jefforize
I knew when Dixon pit early that he was going to finesse his way to the front, but looks like he doesn't have enough fuel to fight Graham.
but looks like he doesn't have enough fuel to fight Graham.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 3:10 pm to jefforize
Going to be quite a end. If they let us watch it.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 3:16 pm to fightin tigers
Rahal closing
Posted on 8/12/23 at 3:17 pm to jefforize
This is tense. Great ending.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 3:21 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Dixon is the fricking master.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 3:23 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Killed it. What a finish, but Dixon seemed to have it under control the whole time. Saved right up until he needed to.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 3:28 pm to fightin tigers
I've always remembered this quote from Alain Prost:
Dixon only went just as fast as he needed to, to win the race.
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"I always say that my ideal is to get pole with the minimum effort, and to win the race at the slowest speed possible."
Dixon only went just as fast as he needed to, to win the race.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 11:37 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
dixon is the fricking GOAT(outside of AJ foyt who is the perenniel GOAT)
hope Graham picks up a w before the season ends. RLL has really turned it around (outside of Jack Harvey)
hope Graham picks up a w before the season ends. RLL has really turned it around (outside of Jack Harvey)
Posted on 8/13/23 at 7:46 pm to SkiUtah420
That was an awesome race! I was hoping Rahal could catch him. He got a little wide at a late turn on 83rd lap, and that’s what did it. Amazing race by Dixon to spin on the first lap but still win!
It stinks for Newgarden. There was nothing he could do to avoid that crash.
I was glad to see Herta finish P13 despite the flat on the first lap and what felt like 4-5 pit stops.
It stinks for Newgarden. There was nothing he could do to avoid that crash.
I was glad to see Herta finish P13 despite the flat on the first lap and what felt like 4-5 pit stops.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 1:33 am to Tornado Alley
Race 14 IMS Road Course
Official results and points
2023 Gallagher Grand Prix - 85 laps
P01 Scott Dixon (#9 Ganassi / Honda)
P02 Graham Rahal (#15 Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda)
P03 Pato O'Ward (#5 McLaren / Chevy)
P04 Christian Lundgaard (#45 Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda)
P05 Alexander Rossi (#7 McLaren / Chevy)
P06 Will Power (#12 Penske / Chevy)
P07 Alex Palou (#10 Ganassi / Honda)
P08 Scott McLaughlin (#3 Penske / Chevy)
P09 Kyle Kirkwood (#27 Andretti / Honda)
P10 Marcus Ericsson (#8 Ganassi / Honda)
P11 Rinus VeeKay (#21 Carpenter / Chevy)
P12 Linus Lundqvist (#60 Meyer Shank / Honda)
P13 Colton Herta (#26 Andretti / Honda)
P14 Jack Harvey (#30 Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda)
P15 Hélio Castroneves (#06 Meyer Shank / Honda)
P16 David Malukas (#18 Coyne / Honda)
P17 Callum Ilott (#77 Juncos Hollinger / Chevy)
P18 Romain Grosjean (#28 Andretti / Honda) -1 lap
P19 Devlin DeFrancesco (#29 Andretti / Honda) -1 lap
P20 Ryan Hunter-Reay (#20 Carpenter / Chevy) -1 lap
P21 Agustín Canapino [R] (#78 Juncos Hollinger / Chevy) -1 lap
P22 Sting Ray Robb [R] (#51 Coyne / Honda) -1 lap
P23 Santino Ferrucci (#14 Foyt / Chevy) -1 lap
P24 Marcus Armstrong [R] (#11 Ganassi / Honda) -2 laps
P25 Josef Newgarden (#2 Penske / Chevy) -2 laps
P26 Benjamin Pedersen [R] (#55 Foyt / Chevy) -6 laps
P27 Felix Rosenqvist (#6 McLaren / Chevy) 68 laps DNF Mechanical
With just three races left to go, Palou increases his lead over P2 back to 101 pts.
2023 Season Standings (after 14 races)
(+/- number of positions gained or lost since the previous race)
P01 Alex Palou (Ganassi / Honda) 539 pts (+0)
P02 Scott Dixon (Ganassi / Honda) 438 pts (+1)
P03 Josef Newgarden (Penske / Chevy) 434 pts (-1)
P04 Scott McLaughlin (Penske / Chevy) 395 pts (+0)
P05 Pato O'Ward (McLaren / Chevy) 388 pts (+1)
P06 Marcus Ericsson (Ganassi / Honda) 377 pts (-1)
P07 Will Power (Penske / Chevy) 365 pts (+0)
P08 Christian Lundgaard (Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) 330 pts (+0)
P09 Kyle Kirkwood (Andretti / Honda) 312 pts (+0)
P10 Alexander Rossi (McLaren / Chevy) 306 pts (+1)
P11 Colton Herta (Andretti / Honda) 302 pts (-1)
P12 Romain Grosjean (Andretti / Honda) 253 pts (+1)
P13 Felix Rosenqvist (McLaren / Chevy) 246 pts (-1)
P14 Graham Rahal (Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) 241 pts (+2)
P15 Rinus VeeKay (Carpenter / Chevy) 218 pts (+0)
P14 Callum Ilott (Juncos Hollinger / Chevy) 216 pts (-2)
P17 David Malukas (Coyne / Honda) 195 pts (+0)
P18 Marcus Armstrong [R] (Ganassi / Honda) 179 pts (+0)
P19 Hélio Castroneves (Meyer Shank / Honda) 177 pts (+1)
P20 Santino Ferrucci (Foyt / Chevy) 170 pts (-1)
P21 Agustín Canapino [R] (Juncos Hollinger / Chevy) 151 pts (+0)
P22 Jack Harvey (Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) 146 pts (+1)
P23 Devlin DeFrancesco (Andretti / Honda) 145 pts (-1)
P24 Conor Daly (Carpenter/Chevy & Meyer Shank/Honda) 120 pts (+0)
P25 Sting Ray Robb [R] (Coyne / Honda) 113 pts (+0)
P26 Benjamin Pedersen [R] (Foyt / Chevy) 102 pts (+0)
P27 Simon Pagenaud (Meyer Shank / Honda) 88 pts (+0)
P28 Ryan Hunter-Reay (D&R + Carpenter / Chevy) 86 pts (+0)
P29 Takuma Sato (Ganassi / Honda) 65 pts (+0)
P30 Ed Carpenter (Carpenter / Chevy) 40 pts (+0)
P31 Linus Lundqvist (Meyer Shank / Honda) 23 pts (+5)
P32 Tony Kanaan (McLaren / Chevy) 18 pts (-1)
P33 Marco Andretti (Andretti / Honda) 13 pts (-1)
P34 Tom Blomqvist (Meyer Shank / Honda) 5 pts
P35 Katherine Legge (Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) 5 pts
P36 RC Enerson (Abel Motorsports / Chevy) 5 pts
This post was edited on 8/18/23 at 1:34 am
Posted on 8/18/23 at 1:36 am to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Latest Developments
Jack Harvey has been fired from Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing. After a strong run at Meyer Shank, Harvey thought he was moving up in the world when he signed with RLL. But he has stunk it up every since he arrived. As the struggling RLL team showed great improvement in form recently with Lundgaard winning a race and Graham finishing a strong P2 last weekend, Harvey did not improve along with the rest of the team. Conor Daly will drive the #30 RLL car at the Gateway short oval. RLL will probably audition other drivers at Portland and Laguna Seca. Juri Vips and Toby Sowery have been mentioned as candidates. Both have tested with RLL.
As previously reported, Hélio Castroneves will retire from full-time IndyCar racing next year (focusing on just the Indy 500), as he joins Meyer Shank as a minority owner. Meyer Shank IMSA racer Tom Blomqvist will replace Hélio as full-time driver.
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