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re: 2 awesome HD Michael Jordan .gifs
Posted on 6/26/13 at 3:48 pm to lsu480
Posted on 6/26/13 at 3:48 pm to lsu480
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To be fair it wasn't clear that he was receiving a pass at the beginning. I can easily see how he thought he dribbled, picked up the ball and then dribbled again.
I assume he was receiving the pass. But that was certainly a travel after that. You can't switch pivot feet on a turnaround.
Pretty impossible to catch in real-time though.
eta: lol at everyone calling dolla dumb for calling that a travel. Watch it again. He fakes the pass, right foot comes up after, then right foot again, then left.
Can't switch pivot feet people.
This post was edited on 6/26/13 at 3:54 pm
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Posted on 6/26/13 at 3:50 pm to cas4t
That's done on almost every single play in the NBA
Posted on 6/26/13 at 3:50 pm to cas4t
Na GOAT was just crab dribbling there. Completely legal.
Posted on 6/26/13 at 3:50 pm to lsu480
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I can't stand Kobe, but that was just a fricking boss moment.
Matt Barnes epitomizes Thug POS.
Agreed on Kobe. I'm pretty indifferent about him, but him not reacting at all like that was awesome. And I don't think Barnes is a thug POS...just a POS in general. I feel like he's more of a "I'm not a thug but I play one on TV" kinda thing.
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To be fair it wasn't clear that he was receiving a pass at the beginning. I can easily see how he thought he dribbled, picked up the ball and then dribbled again.
I don't know...if you really look at it, it's pretty obvious that the ball just came from Kerr's hands.
Posted on 6/26/13 at 3:51 pm to lsu480
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That's done on almost every single play in the NBA
Agreed, and it's a travel everytime
FWIW MJ is the GOAT
This post was edited on 6/26/13 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 6/26/13 at 3:51 pm to cas4t
Yes, the right foot landed slightly before the left but that isn't going to be called as a travel ever. Refs are going to rule it as a type of jump stop where either foot can be established as the pivot foot after landing.
Posted on 6/26/13 at 3:52 pm to VABuckeye
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Yes, the right foot landed slightly before the left but that isn't going to be called as a travel ever. Refs are going to rule it as a type of jump stop where either foot can be established as the pivot foot after landing.
His right foot comes up after he fakes the pass. His pivot foot was clearly established. He wasn't gathering himself or anything. He was set, faked the pass, right foot comes up, right foot again, turnaround and left comes up.
Travel. But you're right, it won't ever be called.
This post was edited on 6/26/13 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 6/26/13 at 3:53 pm to cas4t
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Watch it again. He fakes the pass, right foot comes up after, then right foot again, then left.
I've watched it about 30 times. Neither foot leaves the ground.
Posted on 6/26/13 at 3:54 pm to VABuckeye
If that's the case then everyone is traveling on turnarounds. You have to move both feet in turning around to shoot the ball similar to the two steps allowed on layups.
Posted on 6/26/13 at 3:55 pm to tubucoco
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If that's the case then everyone is traveling on turnarounds.
It's pretty well kown amongst refs that turnarounds are usually travels. It takes near perfect footwork to not travel.
Posted on 6/26/13 at 3:56 pm to cas4t
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His right foot comes up after he fakes the pass. His pivot foot was clearly established. He wasn't gathering himself or anything. He was set, faked the pass, right foot comes up, right foot again, turnaround and left comes up.
He faked the pass before he dribbled. Once he dribbles he can reestablish either foot as the pivot foot.
Posted on 6/26/13 at 3:57 pm to CocomoLSU
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Neither foot leaves the ground.
Not sure what you're looking at. His right foot clearly comes off the floor twice. Which is fine.
it's when he turns and his left comes up that it's a travel.
But again, you don't blow the whistle on a play like that or you'd basically be eliminating the turnaround J from basketball.
Unless you're Hakeem. His footwork was perfect.
Posted on 6/26/13 at 3:58 pm to cas4t
Watch the video again. He is dribbling the ball and then goes into his turnaround to shoot. That's not traveling. Like I said it's similar to the two steps allowed on layups.
Posted on 6/26/13 at 3:59 pm to VABuckeye
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He faked the pass before he dribbled. Once he dribbles he can reestablish either foot as the pivot foot.
I mention the right foot coming up the first time as kind of a reference point. The travel occurs after the dribble when he goes from right foot up to left foot up.
This post was edited on 6/26/13 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 6/26/13 at 4:00 pm to cas4t
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The travel occurs after the dribble when he goes from right foot up to left foot up.
Disagree. That's really picking nits. Viewed as a jump stop.
Now if you want to talk about some of the crab steps that are blatant travels that don't get called I'm on your side all day long.
Posted on 6/26/13 at 4:00 pm to tubucoco
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He is dribbling the ball and then goes into his turnaround to shoot. That's not traveling. Like I said it's similar to the two steps allowed on layups.
I completely agree. but you don't get 2 steps on a turnaround jump shot.
Again though, you obviously don't blow the whistle. But technically it's a travel.
Posted on 6/26/13 at 4:02 pm to VABuckeye
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That's really picking nits.
Oh I absolutely agree
I've said you don't blow the whistle on this because it's nearly impossible to catch in real time. Plus it takes that move out of basketball.
This post was edited on 6/26/13 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 6/26/13 at 4:03 pm to cas4t
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His right foot comes up after he fakes the pass. His pivot foot was clearly established.
Looks to me like his left foot was his pivot foot. Neither foot comes up on the fake. Right foot comes up just after the fake (but it's fine because that just means his left foot is the pivot). Then he dribbles, making all the previous moot, and turns and shoots a fade away (not taking more than his allotted two steps).
Even looking with a super critical eye, I don't think you can rightly call a travel at all in that gif.
Posted on 6/26/13 at 4:03 pm to cas4t
I see what you are saying, but if you look closely, he doesn't pick up his dribble until just After the left foot is established as the pivot foot. Watch his left hand the whole time. When it finally touches the ball, signifying the end of his dribble, the left foot is the pivot foot. The movements he makes with his feet before that are all legal because he was still dribbling.
This post was edited on 6/26/13 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 6/26/13 at 4:05 pm to cas4t
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but you don't get 2 steps on a turnaround jump shot
Sure you do. Well, you get your two feet hitting the ground (which may not be actual "steps"). Looks to me like his first "step" is his left foot while turning. Second "step" is his right foot planting. You're allowed to jump in that scenario without it being a travel.
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I see what you are saying, but if you look closely, he doesn't pick up his dribble until just After the left foot is established as the pivot foot. Watch his left hand the whole time. When it finally touches the ball, signifying the end of his dribble, the left foot is the pivot foot. The movements he makes with his feet before that are all legal because he was still dribbling.
This.
This post was edited on 6/26/13 at 4:06 pm
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