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10,000 meters, Olympics

Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:56 am
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:56 am
Why does the Western Hemisphere suck at it compared to other track and field events?

Winners:

Finland - 7 times
Ethiopia - 5 times
Czech - 2 times
Great Britain - 2 times
Morrocco - 2 times
Russia - 2 times

Billy Mills - USA

Is the only person in the Western Hemisphere to ever win the event in the Olympics.
Posted by arwicklu
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:57 am to
quote:

10,000 meters


Metric system
Posted by lsurulz1515
Member since Mar 2007
5615 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:31 am to
In the US:
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
12742 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:57 am to
In the western hemisphere, most 10ks are run on road courses as opposed to the Olympics (and I am thinking eastern hemisphere) run it on the track.

Strategies are different when you factor in the terrain and how you go about attacking and defending the lead.

Also, western hemisphere distance runners may focus more on marathon distances.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26575 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 7:07 am to
Training, for one. Blacks also have a slight genetic advantage.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 7:15 am to
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Blacks also have a slight genetic advantage.
HMMMM
quote:

Finland - 7 times
Czech - 2 times
Russia - 2 times
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 7:20 am to
You took that bait and swallowed the hook
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 7:29 am to
For real though, it is training and volume of runners. Track and Field is huge in a lot of those countries.
Posted by Stuckinthe90s
Dallas, TX
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:41 am to
AAU
Posted by tigerfootball10
Member since Sep 2005
9493 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:48 am to
quote:

training and volume of runners. Track and Field is huge in a lot of those countries.

This
T&F has been slowly dying in this country for years
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:48 am to
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T&F has been slowly dying in this country for years


And yet US distance runners are in a renaissance.

quote:

In fact, the distance athletes earned two more medals in Rio than they did in the previous four Olympics combined and saw many others place well in the finals—all three Americans in the women’s marathon were in the top ten, for example. This year, Matthew Centrowitz (1500 meters) won gold, Evan Jager (3,000-meter steeplechase) and Paul Chelimo (5,000 meters) won silver; and Rupp, Emma Coburn (steeplechase), Clayton Murphy (800 meters), and Jenny Simpson (1500 meters) brought home bronze.


Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35448 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 12:06 pm to
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T&F has been slowly dying in this country for years


Yeah, but the USA has 801 T&F medals, 32%. That's more than swimming and most other summer events combined.

And it took the USA 52 years to win it's first and only 10,000M.

And it's not ancestry or location.

This is a country of immigrants...and South America and Brazil is about as diverse and huge as you can get with immigrants from all over northern Europe, more former African slaves than America and the Caribbean combined, European ancestry, African, etc.

It doesn't make any sense for Finland and Europe as a whole and then Africa to dominate while the Western Hemisphere needed the lone native born north american to win it.
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:01 pm to
Galen rupp should have beet mo Farrah in 2012. Nobody can tell me otherwise.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

In the western hemisphere, most 10ks are run on road courses as opposed to the Olympics (and I am thinking eastern hemisphere) run it on the track.



I always ran much faster on grass or roads than on a track.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:29 pm to
The lack of success by Kenyans is more surprising
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:31 pm to
Whenever you take into account spikes/the type of competition it's extremely rare you see a faster road pr than track pr
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
4918 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:36 pm to
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The lack of success by Kenyans is more surprising


Kenya didn't really start seeing international success at 5k/10k until the 80s. They boycotted one year, then the past 6 olympiads ran into the buzzsaw of 3 of the greatest distance runners of all time.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:07 pm to
Finns are so into olympics.

They caught caught for cheating a couple of times.

If the usa cared about 10000 we would have more native americans in 10000. Money talks.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 2:07 pm
Posted by Beer Can Stan
Member since Sep 2015
113 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 4:03 pm to
It's because the countries you mentioned put way more emphasis on distance running. It was the Fins in the mid 20th century and the East Africans now, but those distance running powers train for the Olympics from the time they are kids. There's something to be said for having a culture loaded with young talented middle distance runners.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26575 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 7:13 pm to
I want to use this thread just to mention the 10k world record is 26:17. That is 4:12 mile pace
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