Will The Google Phone Be Cooler Than The Iphone?

I just want google to release to cool shite on their platform before iphone ie gboard

this is why you really need to start LOL at people who still own apple stock in 2016

RIP to them all

Hard to say. If they can find a way to differentiate it from all the cheapo Android phones that degrade the Android OS "brand", then maybe. What I mean is, it can't be just another mid range Android also-ran. And at the upper end, you already have the Galaxy S phones, which IMO are already matching, if not beating, the iPhone in terms of coolness factor. And Samsung seems to be doing a good job of building its own IoT ecosystem. I think they've certainly beaten Apple to the punch in that area.

Google has had a somewhat spotty track record as far as quality. The Pixel C tablet has gotten mixed reviews because of bugs and inconsistency. So they'll have to up their game with a phone.

Just looking forward, I don't think another branded phone is what people are looking for. I don't see that moving anybody's needle. I think it's going to come down to what the phone can do as far as interaction with the various IoT protocols and devices.

I've owned Apple on and off as a trade and a core position for nearly 20 years. The primary issue that I have with the company right now is what Dabigfella mentioned in his last post: an over reliance on the phone, while not being able to come up with a new needle mover. To me, that's a CEO problem. While I believe that Cook was a near genius when it came to supply chain management, and more recently, financial engineering, he is not (IMO) a field general type. He's OK at implementing a strategy and direction that someone else has laid out. But he's allowed too many projects to flounder or die on the vine once a change of direction was needed on his watch. The AppleTV is not what it should/could be. The TV streaming service never got off the ground and is now dead, last I heard (relying on some sort of deal with Dish). The watch, Apple Pay, the Mac Pro, the iTunes restructure... they've all stumbled under Cook. As far as this car project, that scares me. That one REALLY scares me. That's about as far as Cook can get from his and Apple's core competence. I'd rather see them start building TVs and refrigerators. Much like racing, the way to make a small fortune in the automotive sector is to start with a large fortune.

I think the company is just fine. But I think they need a wartime consigliere right now, to borrow a line from The Godfather. Without that, I'm having a hard time seeing where the earnings growth is going to come from going forward, absent the iPhone.

well Apple P/E is irrelevant because they already said they're not growing this year, so unless the growth picks up or they buyback a hell of a lotta stock the P/E is of no consideration. Google P/E is over 20 but they're going to grow a lot next year, the year after, and the year after.

Stylistically, Ive's certainly got some visionary traits, doesn't he? I'm not trying to run Cook down, but he just hasn't shown that he's really got an eye for what constitutes a customer delighter.

Look at Jobs. He wasn't (truly) an engineer. But he had a good enough understanding of engineering principles from a high level, and he had this weird sense for making something a must have, that he could tell people what to do, as long as they knew how to do it. I continue to believe that there's as much brain horsepower in the ranks of Apple as any other tech company. But yeah, that's exactly it. Somewhere in the leadership mix, you need a Patton.

Yeah, I realize that people like that only come along maybe once in in a generation. But Cook needs to realize what he is and isn't good at and put the right people in certain key positions. Even on Apple forums, the current product mix is taking hits for being stale and uninspiring versus the competition. The potential is certainly there. And goodness knows, they've got the money!