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When do the new overtime rules go into effect?

Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:53 am
Posted by Serraneaux
South of 30a
Member since Mar 2014
19662 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:53 am
Or is it still in the comment phase? Surely, this won't happen until 1/1/2016 or later in 2015, right? Companies have to have time to manage this. I've commented that the $50,400 salary threshold across the board isn't fair. We have several professionals making less than that in Nashville (most of staff are young people right out of college). We would have had to pay out an extra $200k in salaries last year if we went by the new overtime laws. That's alot for a small business to have to have deal with.

My argument is that $50,400 in New York City or San Franscisco isn't the same as $50,400 in Nashville.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17258 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 11:33 am to
what are the new rules?
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11806 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

what are the new rules?


FedGov wants to change the laws on salaried positions to OT for any hours after 40 up to a certain ($50,400) threshold.

Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

FedGov wants to change the laws on salaried positions to OT for any hours after 40 up to a certain ($50,400) threshold.



You have degreed individuals working for you over 40 hours a week making less than 50 grand? What line of work are you in? I couldn't imagine making that and having a degree.

You can always reduce their hourly wage. Since that is what it seems like they are doing.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28340 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 1:50 pm to
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That's alot for a small business to have to have deal with.


Government doesn't give a shite about small business. They get a lot of run from all the helping the small business BS that they spew, but if you follow their action they only care about the large corporations. This regulation hurts all companies, but the bigger ones are better suited to deal with it.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11806 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 2:03 pm to
Engineers out of college in commercial consulting jobs make Upper $30s/Lower $40s

Jnior project manager out of college with construction management degrees make about the same

And neither will work just 40 hrs/wk

Posted by Navajo61490
Baton rouge
Member since Dec 2011
6717 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 2:22 pm to
So do we know when this goes into effect? is it people whom are salaried less than the threshold make OT until they reach the threshold?
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

Engineers out of college in commercial consulting jobs make Upper $30s/Lower $40s

Jnior project manager out of college with construction management degrees make about the same

And neither will work just 40 hrs/wk


I just graduated in May with a engineering degree and work for a GC making $60 and work 70 hours a week.
Posted by schexyoung
Deaf Valley
Member since May 2008
6534 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 4:20 pm to
When I started in public accounting seven years ago in Atlanta my salary was $55k. I have a BS and MS in Accounting. We worked at minimum 50hrs a week, many weeks over 60. Still a great job as the exposure and knowledge gained is priceless. It's just accepted that you get paid shite and work crazy hours for a big payoff when you leave for industry or if you don't want a family life stay for partner.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

It's just accepted that you get paid shite and work crazy hours for a big payoff when you leave for industry or if you don't want a family life stay for partner.


I just figured most college graduates with a decent degree would easily clear $50.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 4:42 pm to
The absolute lowest engineering salary I have heard is $45k out of undergrad and this person didn't try at all to get a better job. The low side of engineering is around $50k I'd say.
Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2012
10602 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 4:53 pm to
The comment period is closed. I'm hearing January of 2017... that's right, 2017. The amount will be lowered from the proposed threshold, but it will be adjusted annually from that point on. Also, right now there's no proposal modifying the language defining Exempt, but they can change it before implementation without a new public comment period.
Posted by Serraneaux
South of 30a
Member since Mar 2014
19662 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 4:54 pm to
If you start at a bank right out of college with no experience I doubt you clear 50k.

I'm a controller and it's going to be a big impact to us as a ad/pr agency with so many young people right out of college.
Posted by schexyoung
Deaf Valley
Member since May 2008
6534 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 4:54 pm to
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I just figured most college graduates with a decent degree would easily clear $50.


Sometimes short term pain means more long term gain. I had offers outside of public accounting for more money coming out of college. Most large public accounting firms know they can pay less because they offer something the others don't... diverse industry exposure and subject matter expertise.
Posted by Serraneaux
South of 30a
Member since Mar 2014
19662 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 4:58 pm to
Thanks. This is going to a be huge deal for us. Are they changing the language from the current exempt language or the proposed exempt language .
Posted by Serraneaux
South of 30a
Member since Mar 2014
19662 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 5:00 pm to
It's also 50,400 salary not total compensation for the year as I understand it.
Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2012
10602 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 5:45 pm to
They'll probably change it most in regards to Administrative employees. A lot of mid-level office workers shouldn't be classified as Exempt, but are under the current set-up. I'm not a professional, but I deal with this type of issue in my field.

You should probably find an employment law or FLSA seminar or workshop in your area given by an employment law attorney if you want a true handle on things. There are still a lot of unknowns at this point.
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