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Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:33 pm
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3128 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:33 pm
A question. I have emailed my CPA, he hasn't answered yet.

I'm self employed. I have a business in FL and a business in AL. Basically I'm W-2 and K-1 in both. The Florida company maxed out a SEP-IRA on me. $66k. Can I contribute to a separate traditional IRA tax deferred? Or am I maxed out?
Posted by UpstairsComputer
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2017
1568 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:46 pm to
You can contribute, the question is whether you can get a tax deduction. My hunch is you won't. Find your situation here: Tax Deductibility Limits
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84753 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:04 pm to
I don’t see how you could make a tax deductible contribution since your individual income is obviously at least $330,000 to have a $66,000 SEP contribution. May be able to backdoor a Roth though.

ETA- as pointed out below SEP balance would still count for pro-rata backdoor contributions rendering them pretty much useless. Completely forgot about it in my post.
This post was edited on 1/31/24 at 8:43 pm
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6097 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

May be able to backdoor a Roth though.


Do sep-iras no longer count towards the pro rata rule?

I know that you k
now can do sep ira roth contributions.

But I thought if trying to do the non deductible trad ira contribution -> roth conversion that form 8606 still accounts for trad sep ira amounts therefore you get hit with the pro rata rule still.
Posted by CHGAR
Haile, LA
Member since Aug 2022
563 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:52 pm to
Might want to look at some form of investment, outside of a qualified plan, that does not pay dividend or interest and concentrate on capital appreciation. All gains would unrealized until a sale occurs and be taxed at favorable capital gains rates at that time.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84753 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 8:41 pm to
quote:

Do sep-iras no longer count towards the pro rata rule?


No they definitely count against I just completely forgot about it mid post. Good catch.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37034 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 10:39 pm to
quote:

Basically I'm W-2 and K-1 in both.


S Corp?

Might be time to look at a cash balance / defined benefit plan
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
3788 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 10:46 pm to
quote:

The Florida company maxed out a SEP-IRA on me. $66k. Can I contribute to a separate traditional IRA tax deferred? Or am I maxed out?




I think it's that amount of 25% of the salary with a cap (I think at or around 66k)
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3128 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 10:31 am to
quote:

S Corp? Might be time to look at a cash balance / defined benefit plan


Yes S-Corp, both are S-Corp with different ownership in either. We are happy with where we are but taxation has become a huge burden. I’m just trying to figure out how to defer as much as possible.

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84753 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 12:18 pm to
Cash balance would be your next step.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37034 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 1:02 pm to
S Corps aren't super for retirement contributions. You have to jack your salary higher to max out, which whittles away at the benefit of the S Corp.

Yes, cash balance might be your answer. Talk to your retirement plan company about this.
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