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Tax ? (solved) Interest taxed at 27% Federal
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:51 pm
I was missing a 1099-INT and added it to my draft return. The additional $325 interest cost me $91. I'm assuming it bumped me out of eligibility for a credit or something. Yet if I play around w it and add more interest the rate remains 27% of every additional $ same if I remove all interest. Any tips on figuring out whats causing the increase?
I'm on verge of plugging everything into another tax software but that would be tedious. Using freetaxUSA
I'm on verge of plugging everything into another tax software but that would be tedious. Using freetaxUSA
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:24 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
Sounds like you’re in the 24% bracket and subject to NIIT (3.8%)
Form 8960
Form 8960
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:30 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
Figured it out. I did some capital gains harvesting at the zero LTCG rate (first time being eligible now that taxable income is lower in early retirement.) I cut it too close and didnt account for the interest income (free $ from account sign up bonuses.) Thus, every $ of interest was taxed at 12% and caused a dollar of LTCG to be taxed at 15%. The trick was figuring that the interest should be taxed at 12% bracket so somewhere another 15% is being levied (LTCG on the gain harvesting).
I got away from the screen and went for a short bike ride and it came to me.
I got away from the screen and went for a short bike ride and it came to me.
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:51 pm to Weagle25
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Form 8960
Thank you! Same thing happened to us after amending to add a 1099-INT. That answers that.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:16 pm to TigerGrl73
Subtle brag @TigerGrl73
Unfortunately, we're well below that $250k NIIT threshold. On the otherhand, if I dont mess it up next time we have some space under the ~$90k threshold (after standard deduction) where we can pay zero on some harvested long term gains. This little mistake cost me ~$750 of unnecessary LTCG tax on $5k of excess gains.
lesson learned must have underestimated dividends as well. Still harvested $20k gain w zero tax.
Unfortunately, we're well below that $250k NIIT threshold. On the otherhand, if I dont mess it up next time we have some space under the ~$90k threshold (after standard deduction) where we can pay zero on some harvested long term gains. This little mistake cost me ~$750 of unnecessary LTCG tax on $5k of excess gains.
lesson learned must have underestimated dividends as well. Still harvested $20k gain w zero tax.
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:39 am to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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Figured it out. I did some capital gains harvesting at the zero LTCG rate (first time being eligible now that taxable income is lower in early retirement.) I cut it too close and didnt account for the interest income (free $ from account sign up bonuses.) Thus, every $ of interest was taxed at 12% and caused a dollar of LTCG to be taxed at 15%. The trick was figuring that the interest should be taxed at 12% bracket so somewhere another 15% is being levied (LTCG on the gain harvesting)
I call that bracket drag... when additional $1 of income "drags" $1 of qualified income from the 0% rate to the 15% rate... resulting in the additional dollar of income having an effective federal tax rate of 27%.
A similar thing happens with Social Security benefits. Up to 85% of benefits are taxed based on a formila that takes into effect half of your benefits plus all of your other income. So earning an additional $1 of income can cause an additional $1 of Social Security benefits to go from being tax free to being taxed. I call that Social Security drag.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:15 am to LSUFanHouston
This was my first time gain harvesting. I need to find a better way to accurately estimate all dividend, interest and capital gains distributions so I can avoid this next time. I intend to sell as much as possible in zero LTCG bracket each year so I can reinvest at a higher basis.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:42 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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This was my first time gain harvesting. I need to find a better way to accurately estimate all dividend, interest and capital gains distributions so I can avoid this next time. I intend to sell as much as possible in zero LTCG bracket each year so I can reinvest at a higher basis.
It's hard if you own a lot of mutual funds.
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