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Sales Tax on Services
Posted on 7/31/13 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 7/31/13 at 9:03 pm
IT Consulting? I mostly connect remotely and make changes to networks. Also have clients on monthly maintenance contracts. I resell some web hosting and offsite backup as well.
Such a grey area. Most say it is a service, so no. Some say that you may work on a computer every now and then, so yes. Some say if you modify your own software, yes, but if you modify Windows settings, then no. Web hosting and offsite stuff from most of my research is not taxable. The tax laws are so vague. Some lump IT Consultants in as a Professional Service, so no tax. Some lump us in with an AC repair man and if we work on computer, then yes.
Any other IT Consultants out there?
Such a grey area. Most say it is a service, so no. Some say that you may work on a computer every now and then, so yes. Some say if you modify your own software, yes, but if you modify Windows settings, then no. Web hosting and offsite stuff from most of my research is not taxable. The tax laws are so vague. Some lump IT Consultants in as a Professional Service, so no tax. Some lump us in with an AC repair man and if we work on computer, then yes.
Any other IT Consultants out there?
Posted on 7/31/13 at 9:23 pm to ColdDuck
Not sure if this helps, but I'm an engineer and I don't add sales tax to my hourly rate.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 10:00 pm to ColdDuck
This may help:
LINK
I worked in Corporate Sales Tax for a few years, more specifically with Heavy Industrial Equipment. We generally charged sales tax on invoices unless a direct pay permit or sales tax exemption certificate (aka resale certificate) was provided by the customer.
Also found this database:
LINK
I'm assuming you are doing business here in LA?
ETA: At any point are you selling them any electronic parts or is it always specifically IT services with nothing physical being sold?
LINK
I worked in Corporate Sales Tax for a few years, more specifically with Heavy Industrial Equipment. We generally charged sales tax on invoices unless a direct pay permit or sales tax exemption certificate (aka resale certificate) was provided by the customer.
Also found this database:
LINK
I'm assuming you are doing business here in LA?
ETA: At any point are you selling them any electronic parts or is it always specifically IT services with nothing physical being sold?
This post was edited on 7/31/13 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 8/1/13 at 7:40 am to dcrews
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At any point are you selling them any electronic parts or is it always specifically IT services with nothing physical being sold?
This is the key. If it can be called labor you don't charge sales tax for it. Your time is labor.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 8:19 am to VABuckeye
I may have to run to Office Depot and pick up a switch or something and I just add it to the invoice without any markup. But that is every now and then. I figured sales tax has already been paid once for that item.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 8:25 am to ColdDuck
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sales tax has already been paid once for that item.
But did you mark that item up?
Posted on 8/1/13 at 8:46 am to ColdDuck
Right. If I sell something I paid sales tax on I don't add it again. Usually this is the case when we need a part now. My regular vendors have my sales tax exempt information so I have to charge sales tax on all of those items.
This post was edited on 8/1/13 at 8:47 am
Posted on 8/1/13 at 8:52 am to ColdDuck
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I figured sales tax has already been paid once for that item.
Yes and no. The logic makes sense, but the state can be ridiculous with the way they handle sales tax.
Ideally you personally wouldn't pay sales tax on anything you're buying that you will then "resale" to the customer (hence the "resale certificate" that exempts you from paying sales tax). However you don't seem to do enough business reselling anything to warrant going through all the hassle to set yourself up for one.
That's the funny thing about sales tax, more than half of the rules are nothing but grey areas. You could call the LA Dept of Revenue 5 different times, talk to 5 different people and you would get 5 different answers.
In a lot of cases it all comes down to how your auditor interprets the rules in the event they decide to look into your financials.
This post was edited on 8/1/13 at 8:54 am
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:43 am to dcrews
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However you don't seem to do enough business reselling anything
That is right, I pretty much resell about 1 or 2 "things" a month. The rest is support/maintenance/etc. I make the clients buy anything they need on their own like servers, computers, network equipment, etc...
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:50 am to dcrews
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Also found this database:
Thanks for that link... I found this in the database. I am going with number 113... that is what I do and it is Exempt from Sales Tax. Screw the rest of it and the tangible repair area. There is a specific line for IT, so I am going with it.
113 - Information services E
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:27 am to ColdDuck
Yours is a complex situation. Strict compliance with the law imposes a serious administrative burden determining exactly which sales and services should be subject to sales tax, collecting and remitting the appropriate amount of tax. Most businesses resort to substantial compliance, a good faith effort to comply, for purposes of efficiency. Just remember that it is better to err on the side of caution if you anticipate any problems with your state and/or local taxing authorities.
I would advise you to seek guidance from an attorney or accountant experienced in sales tax matters. You should review the typical transactions you engage in to isolate items that are taxable and how you price those items to your customers.
I would advise you to seek guidance from an attorney or accountant experienced in sales tax matters. You should review the typical transactions you engage in to isolate items that are taxable and how you price those items to your customers.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:40 am to Poodlebrain
My CPA said to not worry about it. But I still worry about it. He doesn't even have a good answer for me.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 12:02 pm to ColdDuck
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He doesn't even have a good answer for me.
Accountants just as well be lawyers. It's nothing but rules and laws. Accountants generally have to give advice or opinions rather than 100% concrete facts (in more complex situations anyway), because there are just a plethora of grey areas (and that's just at the state level).
This post was edited on 8/1/13 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:11 am to Poodlebrain
"The following document should cause you to question your CPA's advice"
I am not a software developer. I do not buy and sell software. So that link does not apply. I am a consultant only that very rarely has to purchase a part and get refunded for it.
The fact that all these IT consulting companies have to have a degree in the tax code and a law degree proves it is a bunch of BS. If they can't make it clear, then frick em. I will go with the fact I am number 113 on the sales tax code meaning I am exempt.
I am not a software developer. I do not buy and sell software. So that link does not apply. I am a consultant only that very rarely has to purchase a part and get refunded for it.
The fact that all these IT consulting companies have to have a degree in the tax code and a law degree proves it is a bunch of BS. If they can't make it clear, then frick em. I will go with the fact I am number 113 on the sales tax code meaning I am exempt.
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