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Rented a book on banking writen in 1983
Posted on 11/4/09 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 11/4/09 at 5:50 pm
How accurate would it still be?
Posted on 11/4/09 at 6:43 pm to Tiger4
they still take deposits I guess. Probably had safes back then too. That might be about it
Posted on 11/4/09 at 7:08 pm to CommanderHeavy
quote:So I can read it with out buying it?
Why do you rent books?
Posted on 11/4/09 at 7:09 pm to Hermit Crab
quote:You sure jessy james didnt rob all the banks?
they still take deposits I guess. Probably had safes back then too. That might be about it
Posted on 11/4/09 at 9:57 pm to Tiger4
t has a lot to do with central banking///fwiw
Posted on 11/4/09 at 10:08 pm to Tiger4
Banks still make deposits and loans, the mechanics of that and keeping a reserve with the Fed is still valid.
Otherwise not very much, I'm afraid.
Otherwise not very much, I'm afraid.
Posted on 11/5/09 at 9:21 pm to Tiger4
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t has a lot to do with central banking///fwiw
What are you looking to get out of it? I don't think the concepts of CENTRAL banking have really changed all that much since 1983. Bernanke has certainly opened up the playbook in the past year in pretty creative ways, and if you're looking for an understanding of those mechanisms then I doubt that book will touch on them much (his moves have been very much outside the realms of normal central banking activity).
If you're looking for an understanding of how commercial banking operates, then as foshizzle noted, you're not going to find all that much. If you must read an 80s book to get some perspective on it, you might as well read Liar's Poker by Michael Lewis (author of Moneyball and The Blind Side). At least that one's entertaining, and will give you a glimpse of the early days of the mortgage securitization market that played such a huge role in this current mess. I can dig around for actual book recs emerging from this crisis if you're looking for more specifics on what the lay of the land is right now. (For instance, Goldman and Morgan Stanley and I think American Express and a few others who survived last year wound up having to turn themselves into bank holding companies amid the crisis. Someone else here can probably explain the implications of that far better than I can, but it's "kind of a big deal.")
Posted on 11/5/09 at 9:29 pm to Reauxhan
quote:I found one writen in 94 and I think Im going to read that one, its about central banking. I dont know much abou commerical banking. But without asking to much, If you have any books you found informative and want to recomend them. I wouldnt mind.
What are you looking to get out of it? I don't think the concepts of CENTRAL banking have really changed all that much since 1983. Bernanke has certainly opened up the playbook in the past year in pretty creative ways, and if you're looking for an understanding of those mechanisms then I doubt that book will touch on them much (his moves have been very much outside the realms of normal central banking activity).
If you're looking for an understanding of how commercial banking operates, then as foshizzle noted, you're not going to find all that much. If you must read an 80s book to get some perspective on it, you might as well read Liar's Poker by Michael Lewis (author of Moneyball and The Blind Side). At least that one's entertaining, and will give you a glimpse of the early days of the mortgage securitization market that played such a huge role in this current mess. I can dig around for actual book recs emerging from this crisis if you're looking for more specifics on what the lay of the land is right now. (For instance, Goldman and Morgan Stanley and I think American Express and a few others who survived last year wound up having to turn themselves into bank holding companies amid the crisis. Someone else here can probably explain the implications of that far better than I can, but it's "kind of a big deal.")
As foor the last part that would be interesting. Im not a begginer but definalty not inermedate. It sound like good information.
This post was edited on 11/5/09 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 11/5/09 at 9:47 pm to Tiger4
Just about everything I've read on the current crisis I've read on blogs I respect, or from economists I respect, so I haven't had time to read any of the books chronicling it to this point. That said, I hear good things about Gillian Tett's book "Fool's Gold." Another is "A Demon of Our Own Design" by Bookstaber, even though it was written ahead of last year's events.
I don't know if it qualifies as "intermediate" but I do know that the former doesn't delve much into the mechanics of CDOs and all that so as not to alienate the casual reader. You should hop over to a bookstore and flip through that one to see if it's up your alley.
I'm sure the others here can come up with other salient suggestions.
I don't know if it qualifies as "intermediate" but I do know that the former doesn't delve much into the mechanics of CDOs and all that so as not to alienate the casual reader. You should hop over to a bookstore and flip through that one to see if it's up your alley.
I'm sure the others here can come up with other salient suggestions.
Posted on 11/5/09 at 10:10 pm to Reauxhan
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If you must read an 80s book to get some perspective on it, you might as well read Liar's Poker by Michael Lewis
Honestly, I think "Liar's Poker" is entertaining and good but someone who doesn't understand the securities industry will get very wrong ideas from it. The book is written in a way that makes everyone involved seem like the caricature of a Wall Street rich cigar smoker who is having a blast at the public's expense. It's actually a great deal more complicated but you have to dig a little to see that.
If you *really* want to learn about banking, I'd suggest reading up on a book or two from further back than that. See how they did things in the 20's, and then in the 50's. Then the rise of securitization in the 80's. And then today. It's IMO a fascinating slice of history.
Posted on 11/5/09 at 10:24 pm to foshizzle
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Honestly, I think "Liar's Poker" is entertaining and good but someone who doesn't understand the securities industry will get very wrong ideas from it. The book is written in a way that makes everyone involved seem like the caricature of a Wall Street rich cigar smoker who is having a blast at the public's expense. It's actually a great deal more complicated but you have to dig a little to see that.
Point noted, but at the same time, I think Lewis is one of the more accessible writers and does a solid job of chronicling the history there. I don't really think he'd need to take more out of it than that.
I get the feeling Tiger4 is looking for something outside the realm of normal dry history books on the topic, no?
Posted on 11/5/09 at 11:54 pm to Reauxhan
quote:I couldnt tell you honeslty. Im trying to build a foundation of information on stocks, banking, econimics. I just happened to start on bank, but also plan to start a stock book in the future. But Im sure alot of these books will have history. SO
I get the feeling Tiger4 is looking for something outside the realm of normal dry history books on the topic, no?
Posted on 11/8/09 at 10:57 am to Tiger4
Was the book you "rented" in the OP Murray Rothbard's The Mystery of Banking?
Posted on 11/8/09 at 11:46 am to joshnorris14
quote:Yeah, Ive started the case against the fed tho.
Was the book you "rented" in the OP Murray Rothbard's The Mystery of Banking?
I almost started this thread on the poli board hopeing you could give me insight..
This post was edited on 11/8/09 at 11:47 am
Posted on 11/8/09 at 12:07 pm to Tiger4
Lol, well I think the second book you were talking about is the Creature from Jekyll Island, that should be right up your alley...
Posted on 11/8/09 at 12:17 pm to Tiger4
And another thing, there are a plethora of books in PDF format at the LVmI... If you haven't read it, read Bastiat's That which is seen, and that which is not seen.
This post was edited on 11/9/09 at 9:20 pm
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