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Posted on 11/10/08 at 2:39 pm
Posted by True23Tiger
Shreveport
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/10/08 at 2:39 pm
sounds like gambling and fun
Posted by Colonel Hapablap
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Posted on 11/10/08 at 3:41 pm to
It is fun, but it's also easy to lose all of your money. OR even more than that.
Posted by T Ba Doe Tiger
ROWMCO
Member since Aug 2007
11103 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 5:40 pm to
May I suggest uncovered calls.
Posted by TigerRanter
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/10/08 at 10:05 pm to
naked
Posted by Tigris
Mexican Home
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 11/11/08 at 5:39 am to
quote:

naked


Be careful with that word, you may attract some O-T Loungers to the money board.
Posted by cajun83
Lafayette Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
20 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 8:26 am to
When discussing the options and futures markets in class someone always brought up that it seems a lot like gambling and it does. but you can always hedge the opposite way to reduce your risk of loss but usually if you come out the victor your earning will be basically the difference in your two positions minus the premium paid which comes out to not very much depending on how much you invest. So finally I get to quote one of the biggest drunks I ever knew in relation to finance as "Go Huge or Go Home" = basically if you want to make a big gain in the options market don't hedge your positions but also be prepared b/c after a bout with that market you might have to put your phone bill in your baby's name.

If you really want something to get you going try some Shorts with your research coming from technical analysis.
Posted by Colonel Hapablap
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Posted on 11/11/08 at 8:34 am to
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naked

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Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
3450 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 11:27 am to
quote:

sounds like gambling and fun


That is exactly what it is. For the most part, no object of value (sugar, oil) even exchange hands. "Traders" are people that deal with options. There is a difference between a trader and a broker. Traders literally sit around and make bets all day according to paramaters set by themselves or their company. They basically look for arbitrage oppurtunities that gurantee them to either win or lose a maximum or minimum.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 12:14 pm to
Definitely a great speculation tool. If I had money I would definitely buy some march/april calls right now.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 8:07 pm to
The way to play this game is to tart up options trading and attract investors.

Then roll the dice. If you get lucky, you get rich. If you don't, just do something else.
Posted by TigerRanter
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
6706 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

Definitely a great speculation tool. If I had money I would definitely buy some march/april calls right now.
I wouldn't recommend this with the VIX so high.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 11:01 pm to
Pure speculation, and I don't have any money so it isn't an option to begin with. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone either.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 11:17 pm to
quote:

For the most part, no object of value (sugar, oil) even exchange hands.


Completely disagree. Would you classify fire insurance as "no object of value"?
Posted by MileHigh
Most likely a mile high
Member since Jan 2004
7920 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 11:21 pm to
I think the money I fork over is an object of value
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10454 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 2:10 pm to
where do i go to make my first option buy, on oil?
Posted by Colonel Hapablap
Mostly Harmless
Member since Nov 2003
28791 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 2:12 pm to
any broker.
Posted by True23Tiger
Shreveport
Member since Nov 2007
1803 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 4:55 pm to
I got the approval to make these trades today and have been doing some research...
I like GM for a dec call option
and CHK as well.
(if u r interested go to yahoo finance under the investment tab select options then enter the symbol and it will give you a list of strike prices and dates)

ETA: I may never actually do this sort of trading but it is interesting.
This post was edited on 11/12/08 at 4:58 pm
Posted by Colonel Hapablap
Mostly Harmless
Member since Nov 2003
28791 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 5:09 pm to
the IV on everything is stupid high right now. I'd be very wary of buying calls.
Posted by True23Tiger
Shreveport
Member since Nov 2007
1803 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 7:14 pm to
I agree but the volatility is what makes it so interesting to me though. If it gets low enough to buy in cheap and hits that strike price(like one of these sucker rallies we have seen) or better before expiration it could pay off without too big a risk.
(At least that is my limited understanding of things)

Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26583 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 7:54 pm to
quote:

If it gets low enough to buy in cheap and hits that strike price


Define it
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