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More carnage in the stock market on Monday?

Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:39 pm
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:39 pm
hmmmmmmmmm

Are bonds looking good?

CD's up here are paying 2.2% for 28 months.
Posted by YoungManOldMan
Member since Dec 2017
1882 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:03 am to
I chose a terrible time to play stock broker. Figures. Everything I’ve touched has turned to crap
Posted by Maximusheals
Mississippi
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:55 am to
Just dont pull your money out. Let it ride
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:20 am to
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I chose a terrible time to play stock broker. Figures.
short term investments? If not, don't sweat it
Posted by CharleyLake
Member since Oct 2006
1327 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:21 am to
Agree. Eventually it will return. In a previous thread (1-25-18) I declared that I was moving 25% of a stable value fund to the S & P 500 index fund within a 401K plan. In order to be forthcoming I moved an additional 75% the next day. The average "purchase" price was at 2830.2. As you know the overall market took a big hit last Friday. It has been said that the market rises like an escalator and drops like an elevator. Hang in there.
This post was edited on 2/5/18 at 8:23 am
Posted by LSUcam7
FL
Member since Sep 2016
7908 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:22 am to
A month ago this wasn’t the narrative. Not even close.

So tell me what has changed other than market price to convince me the economy is not in a healthy situation?
Posted by CharleyLake
Member since Oct 2006
1327 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:30 am to
The only thing that will convince me is a decline in housing starts and that is not even been close. A tempory drop in dividends or a slight bump in interest rates by the Fed will not dissuade me either from believing that the economy is strong.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:45 am to
Look at the results of this earning season so far and tell me which side you would rather be on.
Posted by LZ83
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:53 am to
I’m kinda glad it is correcting a little. Can’t always go up.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:54 am to
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Look at the results of this earning season so far and tell me which side you would rather be on.



And earnings should improve well into this year due to tax cuts, etc
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 2/5/18 at 9:08 am to
Bingo
Posted by Omada
Member since Jun 2015
695 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 9:13 am to
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I chose a terrible time to play stock broker. Figures. Everything I’ve touched has turned to crap

I had a friend tell me about a subreddit a couple of weeks ago called meme economy or something like that. Basically, the users 'buy' (I don't know how, but that's irrelevant) memes that are just starting to build popularity and then sell once the memes have peaked. The way to know that a meme has peaked, he said, was to see if it had reached a certain audience yet, like middle schoolers.

The trends of financial markets behave similarly. The peak occurs not long after the trend is so obvious to everyone that even the 'middle schoolers,' the shoeshine boys, and the bus people (as Mark Fisher likes to call them) are aware and have jumped in. Because once they jump in, there's no one else left for the trend to reach and push it further.

Now, I'm not saying that you're a middle schooler or a shoeshine boy or a bus person. Rather, I'm saying that the more obvious an opportunity is to you and everyone around you, the less you can profit from that opportunity. You want to be in an opportunity before CNBC and other media groups are covering it so the masses put money into your account. And you definitely want to be wary when seeing euphoria on this board, or worse, people making money on wallstreetbets.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/5/18 at 9:18 am to
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The trends of financial markets behave similarly. The peak occurs not long after the trend is so obvious to everyone that even the 'middle schoolers,' the shoeshine boys, and the bus people (as Mark Fisher likes to call them) are aware and have jumped in. Because once they jump in, there's no one else left for the trend to reach and push it further.


Middle schoolers have been using Apple products for years and their stock hasn’t peaked. Or did I totally misunderstand all that?
Posted by Omada
Member since Jun 2015
695 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 9:29 am to
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Middle schoolers have been using Apple products for years and their stock hasn’t peaked. Or did I totally misunderstand all that?

Middle schoolers refers to the meme economy story. My friend said that a meme had peaked once it had caught on with middle schoolers. I don't know why they're the peak audience, but I'm not a 'meme economist' like he is.

So think of middle schoolers, shoeshine boys, and bus people as people late to the party.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167420 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 9:37 am to
It's still early but it looks like the market is trying to shake it off.

I made 15% on some PayPal calls I just sold so far. Usually I would have been greedier and waited.
Posted by YoungManOldMan
Member since Dec 2017
1882 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 9:38 am to
I understand what you're getting at but when a company doubles its expected earnings and still drops 10%, there is still some bad juju associated for something that should have been a slam dunk.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 9:49 am to
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short term investments? If not, don't sweat it


I had the experience of seeing my holdings lose 22% in one day back in October of 1987, this is just a small bump in the road.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 9:58 am to
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but when a company doubles its expected earnings and still drops 10%
Did they reduce their profit or revenue outlook? What company are you referring to?
Posted by YoungManOldMan
Member since Dec 2017
1882 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 10:47 am to
KEM. This thing has sank like a rock
Posted by Jyrdis
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Member since Aug 2015
12808 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 10:55 am to
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KEM. This thing has sank like a rock


There were two things that may have spooked investors in the CC. The first was the issue of capacity. Kemet was operating at capacity and couldn't meet demand. They said they were planning an additional $20m for capital expenditures to expand capacity. Some probably took that to mean competition issues as well. The second was regarding their margins. The CEO said they expected a small drop in margins in the next quarter, but to rebound after.

The above caused the sell-off. Today it's just tanking with everything else.
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