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re: Just bought Dave Ramsey's Total Money Makeover

Posted on 1/26/12 at 9:18 pm to
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 1/26/12 at 9:18 pm to
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Yall think it would ever split?


If you're talking about stock splits, they are largely irrelevant. Say you have 100 shares of a $100 stock. The stock splits. You now have 200 shares of a $50 stock. There's no difference.

Literally 50 years ago splits mattered because it meant more people could invest - increasing liquidity does matter. But in today's world this is mostly irrelevant.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 1/26/12 at 9:27 pm to
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So on the first house buy something cheap with a 30 year note or buy something I could potentially pay off in 5 to 10 years and own?


Honestly given today's rates I would buy as much as I could possibly afford and extend the mortgage for the full 30 years. Paying a 4% note (roughly equivalent to slightly over 3% after the tax deduction) will look like a steal over the next 30 years.

If you pay off the mortgage early, all this means is that you got a 3% return on your investment. This isn't terrible but it isn't a great deal either. Stretch it out and use your money on other things that get a better return.

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I have 5 cc but only use 2 of them. I know it was stupid to open so many (thought I was doing good by having a bigger limit) Haven't paid a dime of interest on them.


That's a fine start. It isn't stupid to have a lot of cards or high limits, in fact it's perfectly fine. What is dumb is:

1) paying an annual fee - close those, stat
2) paying enormous rates. If you are in a "teaser" period with a zero percent rate, fine, keep the balance but make sure you can pay it off at the end.
3) paying 30+ days late.

Paying 10 days late is not going to ding your credit, but it will cost you financially b/c you get hit with a late fee plus outrageous interest. But as long as you pay within the first month you are a valued customer.

30 days late and your credit hits the skids quickly. Yes, prematurely closing accounts, having too much open, etc. can have small effects but that is small change, nowhere near as serious as being a month or more late on a payment.
Posted by Gutterman81
Member since Aug 2007
300 posts
Posted on 1/26/12 at 9:47 pm to
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Paying a 4% note (roughly equivalent to slightly over 3% after the tax deduction) will look like a steal over the next 30 years


Assuming you can itemize.

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Honestly given today's rates I would buy as much as I could possibly afford and extend the mortgage for the full 30 years.


Also assuming you invest the same amount your mortgage is for 30 years.
This post was edited on 1/26/12 at 9:49 pm
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 1/26/12 at 10:53 pm to
I guess my issue with that is I don't see the wife and I making a whole lot of money so that we can invest with if we had huge mortgage to pay. We plan on having kids etc.

Also, I'm not confident that I could return a whole lot.
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 1/26/12 at 10:54 pm to
I also think it would be cool to have a start house paid off in 5 years. Say live in it for 7 to 10 years and move and and either sell it or rent.
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 1/26/12 at 11:32 pm to
Say I did a 5 to 10 year note. Wouldn't the money I'd save on interest be worth it?
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