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Home Equity Line of Credit - Find the flaw in my logic

Posted on 10/11/23 at 11:10 am
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41586 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 11:10 am
Looking to open a line of credit based on home equity. I think I can easily get a 75% equity of about 80k. What I can get is a 6.99% rate for the first 12 months being charged interest only on what I take out. Here’s the plan:
Have to take out a minimum of 25k
-Park 10k plus some expense in OnPath credit union getting 7% on the 10k but have to use a debit card 15 times a statement (no minimum)
-Rest of the amount goes to a high yield at 4.5%
-Pay off the $25k draw the first year as rate now increases to national and leave it as a line of credit

Essentially I’m paying $500 ish the first year to have access to $80k for the next ten years. I don’t have any big expenses planned with the money other than some small house projects but I just like the thought of having access to it in case of emergencies .
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25905 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 11:13 am to
What is the rate if you don't do an initial draw?

What is the HELOC rate tied to? Treasury? Prime? LIBOR?
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41586 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 11:23 am to
After intro rate it’s tied to Prime + 1/4 I think

Didn’t ask about not doing the initial draw . Figured after high yields that the interest paid would be small enough to not worry. I think the zero draw options are around 9% but this offer also comes with no money upfront and they pay for the home appraisal
Posted by lighter345
Member since Jan 2009
11867 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 11:29 am to
Did the quote include set up costs/recording feee?
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9831 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 11:36 am to
Sounds like a lot of trouble.

"Look, just give me a HELOC that I can use as needed over the next 10 years. What does that cost to setup?"


Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25905 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 11:37 am to
My last 3 HELOCs have all been zero cost.

Intro rates don't matter if you don't draw the funds (you don't appear to be doing better than the intro rate, so I haven't figured out the logic to pulling out the initial $25k yet).

Back around 2008, we bought a car on our HELOC. Rates were great then and i believe it had a tax deduction on interest at the time.

Outside of that, it is a layer of unemployment insurance or emergency fund.
Rates are currently too high for any purpose other than that for right now.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18099 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 11:50 am to
Just open the line of credit and dont take anything out. you aren't required to use a LoC.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41586 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 11:57 am to
I mean realistically I’d probably want to use 8-10k the first year. I guess it comes down to if I get a shite rate on that vs the 7% on the 25k
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9831 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 12:12 pm to
I mean realistically I’d probably want to use 8-10k the first year. I guess it comes down to if I get a shite rate on that vs the 7% on the 25k
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A two percent difference on $10K is not much money. You're pinching pennies IMHO.
Posted by Texas Tea 123
Member since Sep 2017
210 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 12:55 pm to
How is OnPath credit union paying 7% on deposits and for how long?
Posted by Hermit Crab
Under the Sea
Member since Nov 2008
7183 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

How is OnPath credit union paying 7% on deposits and for how long?




you have to make a minimum number of debit transactions and if you don't hit those numbers then its probably 0%. A lot of people probably forget to get them in.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166973 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 1:14 pm to
5.26 is available thru Raisin w no strings.
Posted by UpstairsComputer
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2017
1587 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 4:50 pm to
This a new level of crazy. You’re going to change up an entire banking relationship and pay money to borrow money you don’t need for the potential access to debt in the future which you could have then if you needed it?

And no one has said this is crazy yet? Crazy…
This post was edited on 10/11/23 at 8:37 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85387 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

Find the flaw in my logic


All of it.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41586 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 7:13 pm to
Hmm when ya put it that way…
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