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Posted on 2/7/17 at 1:04 pm
Posted by tigerbaiter1033
USA
Member since Nov 2011
2313 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 1:04 pm
Just got the appraisal back on my home and it came in 19k under the listing and agreed upon price between me and the buyer.

I haven't reviewed the appraisal with my realtor yet, but I'm hoping the comps are just way off. I live in a neighborhood where there are house built in '85-88 and then newer builds from 01-03. not to mention there is a range of houses that have updates in them so prices are really all over the place.

Anyone had this happen before? Looking for another opinion on the best way to rebuttal this appraisal.
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 1:05 pm
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 1:07 pm to
Get your realtor involved. They can sometimes have some pull in this process. He/She may be able to pull some other comps that can help. I have had it happen on a flip project that I completed. Had to drop the sales price in order to make the deal work. Was only about $2,000, so it was not a big issue but for $19K, I would do what you can.
Posted by tigerbaiter1033
USA
Member since Nov 2011
2313 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 1:14 pm to
Yeah this is where she'll earn her keep hopefully. She didn't have to do much to sell the house (on the market for 3 days).

The house appraised for 4k more when we bought it only 2 years ago and that was before we painted the kitchen, extended the outdoor patio, and built flowerbeds, and a new fence in the backyard. Glad I did all that myself and didn't pay contractors for labor

Maybe the appraiser completely ignored that.. not sure
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9801 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:22 pm to
"Maybe the appraiser completely ignored that.. not sure"

Or the market has moved down.
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25457 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 6:08 pm to
have there been any recent short sales or foreclosures in your neighborhood?
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24925 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 6:12 pm to
Had this happen with a past sale except the appraisal came in $60k under contract price ($379k versus $319k). Buyer was grinning ear to ear like I was about to just agree to sell for 16% less than contract price. We provided the appraiser additional comps, appealed to bank for new appraiser, etc. and they would not budge at all.

We had confidence that the appraisal was way off so we made buyer the offer to come $5k off the price ($374k) and find other financing or we would walk. They didn't deal so we walked.

Sold a week later for $381k. Appraised for $385k.
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
13047 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 7:16 pm to
I had this happen once with a cash buyer. My assumption was that this is a tactic buyers employ to scare sellers into dropping the price.
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8375 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 7:20 pm to
From my own personal experience the appraiser won't budge. I don't know much about their business but it seems like you can't get them to move once they've made a determination. But you can have another appraiser a month later with a vastly different number. I don't really get that. But it seems like a story I've heard more than once from others as well.
Posted by KarlMalonesFlipPhone
Member since Sep 2015
3848 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:54 pm to
I'm on the other end of the spectrum. Just bought my house for 45k dollars under the appraisal price. Should be a nice return when we go to sell it in 4 or 5 years.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:20 am to
The weak link is the appraiser. I've worked with many in the past who will work to find comps. But what's surprising to me is that either realtor or mortgage professional didn't communicate with him in regards to the purchase price and the situation.

Believe me this happens for anyone out there who says it doesn't.

You as the buyer or seller shouldn't be dealing with this. It points to incredibly weak professionals at the realtor, mortgage pro and appraiser level of your transaction. IMO anyway.

I'd reach out to a local appraiser on your own. Explain your situation to them. Ask them what it would take to pull a few comps in your area and help you figure out if the valuation on your property is accurate or the appraiser needs to do more work.

Offer to pay him for his time.

One of the things that has really become screwed up since I left the mortgage biz full time is the appraiser regulations. Feds installed firewalls between folks so they can't always communicate with each other easily when something dumb like this happens.

Best of luck. Good advice was given earlier in the thread. If you have your price in mind, stick to it and don't be afraid to walk from the deal.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9801 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:45 am to
Everyone is assuming the appraiser is wrong and he may very well be.

But he may also be right.
Posted by ConfusedHawgInMO
Member since Apr 2014
3495 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 8:02 am to
Appraisers typically won't budge and act like you called momma a whore if you question their expertise. Best bet is to try and get a different firm to appraise. You have to be careful there though, if you request a particular one they usually won't use that one.

We have a firm locally that seems to always come up well short of everyone else.

Good luck.
Posted by DieSmilen
My Rubbermaid Desk
Member since Dec 2007
1733 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 8:31 am to
I always blame the listing agent when this happens. I feel they should be able to provide the data they used when listing the house to the appraiser. I feel they have a duty to their seller to provide the appraiser with as much information as they deem necessary to support the value conclusion they and the buyers agreed to.
Posted by ConfusedHawgInMO
Member since Apr 2014
3495 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:10 am to
Yes that is true as well. Can't disagree at all.
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25457 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:10 am to
quote:

I always blame the listing agent when this happens. I feel they should be able to provide the data they used when listing the house to the appraiser. I feel they have a duty to their seller to provide the appraiser with as much information as they deem necessary to support the value conclusion they and the buyers agreed to.


I'm in Nashville. No way for appraisers to keep up. I try to push comps every time I list a property. Every single time. for every appraiser that slaps my wrist, I know who got what even if it hasn't closed yet. For every appraiser that won't budge with this data, there's a buyer who will cover the difference.

My job os to make sure I dont leave money on the table like the 45k under appraised value above.

If sellers market is like mine there is no way buyer will walk, at worst meet you in the middle. If all that doesn't work and you decide to sell for that price, tell buyer if he switches lending institutions you will sell for that price. There lender cost you $, you cost that lending institution $ lol
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 10:12 am
Posted by tigerbaiter1033
USA
Member since Nov 2011
2313 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:09 pm to
I appreciate the replies I've received in the thread.

As many people suggested, the appraiser isn't backing down from his assessment of the property. Going to try and meet halfway with the buyer, but if that fails really considering walking away from the deal. I don't have to get the equity out of the house so I'm considering letting this be my entry into the rental property world.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9801 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 8:19 pm to
"Going to try and meet halfway with the buyer, but if that fails really considering walking away from the deal."
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Which means he will have to out of pocket the difference. And of course closing costs too.

Just curious, why do you think the house is under appraised. Are there other sales you are comparing it to, or has a selling agent priced it for you?

BTW there is nothing wrong with having rentals.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 8:20 pm
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