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Posted on 5/16/17 at 8:13 am
Posted by CQQ
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Posted by PlanoPrivateer
Frisco, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2796 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 8:21 am to
401K is for "for profit" businesses
403B if for "non-profit" businesses
If she can roll over 401K money into an IRA then I would do it. Many more options would be available to her.
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
17048 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 8:43 am to
She has the Roth 401K now so rolling over that $ to a Roth IRA would mean we wouldn't have to pay taxes on that rollover, correct?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20478 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 9:15 am to
I would call someone like Schwab or Vanguard and talk to them about it.

I worked for a non-profit out of college and had a 401k. I believe 403b's are for non-profits but anyone including non-profits can have a 403b.

I would definitely get money out of a 401k into an IRA asap if it doesn't cost you anything including taxes as you have more options and they are generally cheaper (lower fees).
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
17048 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 9:31 am to
Will there be any penalties by rolling it into the IRA? I know when I left my previous job I had no issue. I'm assuming since they're getting rid of the 401K, there would be no issue.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20478 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 11:48 am to
quote:

Will there be any penalties by rolling it into the IRA?


As long as you roll a roth into a roth, I don't believe there are penalties but don't quote me on that.

Just remember, you want the money to not go to you but straight to your new account if at all possible. I've never done it, I just know what you don't want is a check to you that you cash, then write a new check into the new account. You want to deposit the money straight from the old account to the new account.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 11:58 am to
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Just remember, you want the money to not go to you but straight to your new account if at all possible. I've never done it, I just know what you don't want is a check to you that you cash, then write a new check into the new account. You want to deposit the money straight from the old account to the new account.


anyone (schwab, vanguard, fidelity) will tell you EXACTLY what to do and how to do it. Your advice is spot on but why do the work when someone else will do it for you?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20478 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:24 pm to
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anyone (schwab, vanguard, fidelity) will tell you EXACTLY what to do and how to do it. Your advice is spot on but why do the work when someone else will do it for you?


I'm just repeating stories I've been told, and I had a couple of coworkers have a very tough time closing accounts with lower end 401k providers and trying to forward the money into a new provider. So I can see it happen. I had a guy in the next office over who probably spent 20 different phone calls dealing with one of them who basically tried to do everything they could to not have him close his account.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:38 pm to
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I'm just repeating stories I've been told, and I had a couple of coworkers have a very tough time closing accounts with lower end 401k providers and trying to forward the money into a new provider. So I can see it happen. I had a guy in the next office over who probably spent 20 different phone calls dealing with one of them who basically tried to do everything they could to not have him close his account.


yeah it happens. But schwab will do the work for you, or they did for me. I had to call fidelity twice, but schwab told me exactly what to do/say.

My account wasn't trivial amounts though.
Posted by Springlake Tiger
Uptown
Member since Aug 2006
15531 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 5:51 pm to
I work for a large non profit and have a 401k and 403b. The only reason is that Im in the top 10% of pay in my company so I can only contribute so much to the 401k. I can put the remainder of the 18k max in the 403b. It is the same thing essentially.
Posted by Dellort
Member since Jun 2014
550 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 6:17 pm to
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Would it be of any benefit to roll the money she has in her current 401K into a Roth IRA before they switch to the 403B?


ROTH IRA will be the way to go 9/10 times. More options and likely lower fees. Had a couple clients today in the exact opposite situation.... worked for a non-profit hospital and had their department get purchased by a for-profit group. Some transitioned into IRAs, others into the employers new plan, and a few just stayed put.
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