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re: CPI comes in hotter than expected, futures down 1%+

Posted on 4/10/24 at 3:03 pm to
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 3:03 pm to
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I want interest rates as high as possible, rewards financially responsible people.


Also hurts the business growers and employers though.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 3:07 pm to
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1. FOMC is officially on record now saying they anticipate it.


"Anticipate" is a soft word to cover their asses in case they are wrong (like with inflation being "transitory"). It's not different than their saying "we think we may be able to make three cuts." It's not concrete, but they want it to sound as close to it as possible to keep the market happy. To underscore this, they initially anticipated three cuts for 2024. At this rate, that would be three cuts between May and December (one per quarter).

Rate cuts are done to spur growth but they can cause inflation (due to the extra liquidity in the economy). Inflation is still far from tamed, it's now increasing once again .3, .4 and .4 MoM (respectively) each month thus far and 3.1, 3.2 and 3.5 YoY (respectively).

The only way three cuts happen this year is if GDP and inflation drop significantly and unemployment rises significantly between now and May. I don't see any of those happening without some sort of black swan event.

Either that or JPow just says "frick it" and bends the country over to take a healthy slamming of runaway inflation up the arse.

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2. We’re barely in Q2


But we know the direction inflation should be going but it's doing the opposite. Along with that, oil and gasoline prices are far more likely to make it increase more in the coming months.
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 3:20 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84753 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 3:10 pm to
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The taylor rule?


I’m not trying to argue about monetary policy and/or extrapolating the current environment to other timeframes. I’m talking about the current inflationary pressures we’re seeing and their relation to a stronger job market.
Posted by CajunTiger78
Member since Aug 2017
2528 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 7:05 am to
Just creates bigger opportunities to buy calls and puts on the SPY. Buy calls in the support zones and puts in the resistance zones. In and out on the ODTE options can be very lucrative if you are disciplined with stops.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:14 pm to
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It is kind of frightening how little ability there is in Washington to cut spending.


They have all the ability in the world, they just don't have the desire.

Spending money helps elected officials in their eventual re-election efforts by giving them something to brag about to their constituents ("that new bridge I was able to get built" for example), something with which to leverage support from special interest groups ("I didn't do as much as you wanted, but I did more than my opponent would. Send me back and I'll keep fighting for you where they will work to shut you down") and funneling funds to groups and industries who will send some back to their campaign (for example: Lockheed Martin gives far more to incumbents than non-incumbents).

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It’s not going to happen though until there’s blood in the streets.


Truer words... Sometimes I wonder if even that will do it for some of them.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:12 am to
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hotter than expected


Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
1134 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:58 pm to
Lol. Not true. Try again.

Even if this were a significant factor, tell me who would work those jobs? I have some exposure to immigrants working low wage jobs in construction. They are working because their employers can't find others to do the work. Even if they could, they would demand higher wages. I don't see any employers willing to pay higher than the minimum required to get the work done. The employers could change this anytime they wanted to, but capitalism keeps them from doing it.

Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7654 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:14 pm to
Dude, the subject is the jobs numbers. My point is that they are being driven by low paid, part-time jobs. This country has lost full time jobs over the last year. Are you now telling us that isn’t the case?
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
7455 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:03 am to
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CPI comes in hotter

Yep. Makes sense.


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than expected


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