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Can I deduct a childcare service that I paid for but didn't use?

Posted on 2/4/17 at 5:00 pm
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18417 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 5:00 pm
I paid $790 to a preschool as a reservation/first month tuition fee. I ended up not moving to the city with that preschool, but the fee was nonrefundable.

Can I still add this to dependent care expenses?
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
9928 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 5:22 pm to
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I paid $790 to a preschool


quote:

didn't use



Motherfrick.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18417 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 6:01 pm to
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Motherfrick.



You must have missed my cryfest last August. Was a clusterfrick for sure.

$790 wasn't even half of it. Rented a duplex for $1500/month because it was the only decent place I could find. It sat empty in June and July. At the time, I had disposable savings and figured it would be worth having the place. To be fair, it was a hell of a deal for the area. shite happened and I lost a bunch of money on maintenance issues with my rental property and both of our cars needed expensive repairs. Moved to the duplex for three days. Then moved out. Spent $4500 on a three day stay in hell.

Live and learn. Can I deduct the $790?
Posted by dirtsandwich
AL
Member since May 2016
5165 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 6:29 pm to
If it was a deposit, doesn't look like it (not a tax lawyer and not giving tax advice): LINK

"Fees and deposits. Fees you paid to an agency to get the services of a care provider, deposits you paid to an agency or preschool, application fees, and other indirect expenses are work-related expenses if you have to pay them to get care, even though they aren't directly for care. However, a forfeited deposit isn't for the care of a qualify- ing person if care isn't provided."
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17261 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 6:33 pm to
I would, I feel you have a reasonable argument if it were questioned
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5271 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 6:55 pm to
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feel you have a reasonable argument if it were questioned


This.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82032 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 7:54 pm to
Agree with the above posters.


Also told thing is a joke, we spent 12000 and that only amounts to a 600 tax credit

/end rant
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9802 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:15 pm to
I certainly would.

ALL tax strategy works, unless you're audited.
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 10:16 pm
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13498 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 6:59 am to
I am literally in the exact same boat, except only $675. The school I paid the deposit to is also a church. If it gets a second look I'll amend to call it a charitable donation.
This post was edited on 2/5/17 at 7:01 am
Posted by dirtsandwich
AL
Member since May 2016
5165 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 8:15 am to
Interesting responses on here. I guess in answer to whether you can deduct, I guess you can do anything. Whether it is appropriately deductible under the code is another question. According to the IRS guidance I linked above, I don't think it is. Just my two cents.

I know there are a lot of accountants on here but haven't seen any of the weigh in unless I missed it.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37106 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:21 am to
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If it gets a second look I'll amend to call it a charitable donation.


If it gets a second look, they will likely deny it as a charitable contribution as it's over $250 and you would have not have had a contemporaneous written acknowledgement from the church that meets the standards of the tax code.

The IRS, and Louisiana, upon audit, are getting more picky about contributions.

To the OP... there are a couple of things that could trip you up.

1) It must be paid for care provided. It does not appear care was provided.

2) You AND your spouse must have been working or looking for work. I believe based on your past discussions you meet this... not sure about your wife.

Also, was it a deposit or a prepayment. The part that is a deposit is probably toast. If part of it was a prepayment, I could possibly argue that as value towards the child care credit - assuming you meet all the other rules. It would not be a slam dunk... but if I got some young inexperienced auditor, I could probably blow it past him.
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