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403(b) rollover to Roth? Should we do it?

Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:40 am
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Member since May 2004
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:40 am
My wife just quit her job to go back to school for 2 years. She has a 403(b) with about 8 months of salary in it. Since our income will be cut in half, I'm thinking we might go ahead and pay the taxes on the 403(b) now and roll it into a Roth instead of a traditional. Our total taxable income for the year will still be less than it was before my wife quit her job, as the 403(b) is less than what her salary was.

Thoughts? Is this a stupid idea?

Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:01 am to
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Thoughts? Is this a stupid idea?

I think it sounds like a good idea. But might not waiting until next year make more sense? Surely your income will be even lower next year?

eta: make sure you know the income limits on these things. I am not sure how 403b to roth works income limit wise. But I do know Roth has income limits, I think its 183k.
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 11:03 am
Posted by castorinho
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:03 am to
Wait until next year and then do it.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:38 am to
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I think it sounds like a good idea. But might not waiting until next year make more sense? Surely your income will be even lower next year?

eta: make sure you know the income limits on these things. I am not sure how 403b to roth works income limit wise. But I do know Roth has income limits, I think its 183k.




Problem is it has to be rolled over within 60 days (or something like that, its before the end of the year) or they cut us a check and withhold 20%.

Could we roll it to a traditional, and then convert the traditional to a Roth in the next tax year?

Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:53 am to
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Could we roll it to a traditional, and then convert the traditional to a Roth in the next tax year?


That is the way you used to have to do it. So I would assume yes. Why not call your brokerage and ask them? I am sure they would love to get your money.

I would say its good to have a mix of retirement accounts. Some people will argue Roth is superior, but who knows what happens with taxes going forward.
Posted by tirebiter
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Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 12:57 pm to
Read through this, it would help your decision. Regardless, step one is to move the assets into a traditional IRA first. If your wife already has a traditional IRA I would open a separate IRA to receive the funds to lessen any potential issues when converting, then close the IRA post conversion. I agree with others who said convert in 2016 if you choose to do so. At the end of the day, the future is unknowable, you may want to run numbers this year to see what impact it has on current year tax impact if converting some or all, instead of waiting for next year, and there is state income tax to consider as well if in a state with that.

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