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re: Yeskie and walks???

Posted on 4/16/24 at 9:26 pm to
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30212 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 9:26 pm to
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Is the record number of walks in Yeskie?


158 walks coming into this game. Last year at this point LSU had given up 144 walks through 37 games. That is just over 1 more walk every 3 games. and last season we had Skeenes and Floyd throwing half the games.
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4458 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 9:29 pm to
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Probably so, but its not him telling them to throw balls.


No shite? No shite! The pitch calling is terrible and repetitive. I figured a baseball aficionado like yourself would have recognized it and would’ve had an intelligent response instead of your meathead reply. No shite he doesn’t type ball or strike into the watch.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84788 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 9:32 pm to
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You have to ignore the fact that pitching has evolved significantly just in the last 10 and continues to evolve to think that it’s impossible that Nate Yeskie has digressed as a coach.


Throwing strikes is still pretty basic.

Look, there is still a gulf between Nate Yeskie and being a bad pitching coach.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30212 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 9:33 pm to
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We are also talking about walks, are you suggesting that Yeskie is calling pitches off the plate with a 3-ball count?


Are you suggesting that calling pitches off the plate early in counts has no effect on if a batter is walked or not?



Only if the pitcher does not hit his spots later in the count. Which is why we get walks.

If you want to criticize Yeskies pitch calling, then use the home runs or hits given up.
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4458 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 9:36 pm to
I wonder if he calls pitch and location or does the catcher call for the location?

At times, some of these guys are missing location and it’s like he keeps calling the same pitch. Guidry the other night kept throwing the cutter over and over again. Moore finally got into one after about 5 in a row. I’m like throw the fkn curve. Where has that pitch gone?

Just very repetitive. If I can see it so can the opponents. To me, it seems like many pitches get ambushed
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30212 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 9:42 pm to
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Absolutely not, but that wasn’t why I replied. I did so because a baseball “expert” made light of someone asking if Yeskie was intentionally calling balls.



He made light of someone asking if he was intentionally calling balls in reference to LSU's high number of walks. The implication is that he was calling balls that directly resulted in a walk

quote:

And I replied, yes he does. But of course I would expect the “experts” here to understand I’m talking about 0-1, 0-2 or 1-2 counts.

Even a casual fan should understand balls are called out of the strike zone when the pitcher is up in a count, particularly at 0-2 or 1-2, to try to elicit a swing at a pitch that is difficult to hit.

Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4458 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 9:51 pm to
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He made light of someone asking if he was intentionally calling balls


That’s not what I was asking. His pitch calling is suspect and repetitive. Missing the spot and calling the same pitch over and over again certainly doesn’t help the kid.

The situational pitching and bullpen use is also confusing at times.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66465 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 9:54 pm to
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So as an expert, are you not aware that pitches are often called off the plate?


sure but I dont think he calls

Ball a mile outside
Ball a mile outside
Ball a mile outside
Meatball
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39245 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:48 am to
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Absolutely not

They absolutely call for balls with a three ball count. High fastballs out of the zone get strikeouts all the time. So do sliders breaking out of the zone.
Posted by Stoic Poser
South LA
Member since Apr 2023
334 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:57 am to
Gone pecan; someone has to fall on sword and it isn’t CJJ
Posted by SuperNatural
Member since Oct 2018
401 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:16 am to
The majority of this falls on our pitchers not being to execute and hit their spots.
Is some of this developmental? Probably some.

The issue I have is the super non competitive pitches in plus pitchers counts. Just seems to me there are a lot of throw away pitches way off the plate.

After watching every pitch of LSU baseball this year, I’m
Of the opinion he calls way too many breaking pitches, as well.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70227 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:19 am to
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The issue I have is the super non competitive pitches in plus pitchers counts.


It's unreal.

Just attack the fricking hitter. Stop wasting pitches. Holman might be able to get to the 7th if you stop calling waste pitches every time he gets to 0-2.
Posted by SuperNatural
Member since Oct 2018
401 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:26 am to
Agree
Posted by FredbullTN
Brentwood, TN
Member since Sep 2023
867 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:32 am to
I agree as well but I will say that this year it seems to stand out more that we have made some terrible pitches with 0-2 or 1-2 counts. Basically just putting a ball on a tee. I’m not sure what the stats are but it seems excessive at this point. It feels like it’s almost guaranteed that if we get ahead in the count the hitter is getting a pitch to smash. The only question is will it stay in the yard or not.
Posted by The Ostrich
Member since May 2009
2542 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:36 am to
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It's unreal. Just attack the fricking hitter. Stop wasting pitches. Holman might be able to get to the 7th if you stop calling waste pitches every time he gets to 0-2.


Exactly but according to the “experts” on the board the only way Yeskie can be a bad pitch caller is if he’s calling balls.
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
27575 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:45 am to
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Who calls pitches?


who is throwing the pitches?

Yeskie isn't forcing walks, we are just missing the strikezone

That's not saying Yeskie isn't calling some obvious pitches, but it's not ALL on the player or coach, they share the blame
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47795 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:47 am to
Time to look around at better options.
Posted by Broham
Crowley
Member since Feb 2005
18385 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:44 am to
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Who calls pitches?

So I guess Yeskie is calling balls?
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28117 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:52 am to
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We are also talking about walks, are you suggesting that Yeskie is calling pitches off the plate with a 3-ball count?


Or maybe he's not great on mechanics?
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