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Would this really work?
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:45 am
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:45 am
A team hires a (1) top flight OC, (2) top flight DC (3) A special team coordinator.
The OC is the head coach on offense and hires 3 other offensive coaches, recruits 41 players of his choice that play offense. When the offence is on the field, all game-day sideline coaching is done by the OC.
The DC is the head coach on defense and hires 3 coaches and recruits 41 players of his choice that play defense. 4 players are recruited exclusively for kicking, punting etc. When the defense is on the field, all game day sideline coaching is done by the DC.
The AD decides after consulting with the OC and DC, which players from each side play of which special teams i.e., kickoff coverage, punt coverage, kickoff, field goal, punting etc.
OC = $2 million
DC = $2 million
Other coaches together make $1 million each. Total bill would be $10 million whereas a HC comes for $5-6 million.
Two separate team, two separate set of coaches, to separate head coaches or co-head coaches.
If this works, why do we even need a head coach?
.....as asinine as this sounds, that is exactly what LSU is trying to achieve.
Do we seriously think this will would work.
The OC is the head coach on offense and hires 3 other offensive coaches, recruits 41 players of his choice that play offense. When the offence is on the field, all game-day sideline coaching is done by the OC.
The DC is the head coach on defense and hires 3 coaches and recruits 41 players of his choice that play defense. 4 players are recruited exclusively for kicking, punting etc. When the defense is on the field, all game day sideline coaching is done by the DC.
The AD decides after consulting with the OC and DC, which players from each side play of which special teams i.e., kickoff coverage, punt coverage, kickoff, field goal, punting etc.
OC = $2 million
DC = $2 million
Other coaches together make $1 million each. Total bill would be $10 million whereas a HC comes for $5-6 million.
Two separate team, two separate set of coaches, to separate head coaches or co-head coaches.
If this works, why do we even need a head coach?
.....as asinine as this sounds, that is exactly what LSU is trying to achieve.
Do we seriously think this will would work.
This post was edited on 12/11/16 at 11:49 am
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:47 am to axd9142a
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as asinine as this sounds, that is exactly what LSU is trying to achieve.
No, LSU is just trying get the best staff available...
The HC can't do everything..
It's about leadership, building team and winning attitude culture.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:52 am to ApexTiger
quote:
The HC can't do everything.
But he should be at least doing something.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 12:06 pm to axd9142a
Fits with my impression that some places the head coaches first duty is to coach the coaches. In some places I believe that's exactly what happens. I believe that's one of Saban's keys to his process.
Note I said first duty, not only or exclusively. Also, I said coach the coaches, not manage or supervise. That means if you want certain drills, behaviors, tactics, etc. you coach the coach in the 'what', 'why', and 'how' instead of the player. Why would you do that? A) resources, especially time B) if you're doing that as a HC, you're passing that to all players at once instead of 1 at a time. A HC can put his 'imprint' on a team AND at same time coaches in one fell swoop.
This would be more important in CFB because of the more transitory nature of your coaches (can't always find one that thinks like you do), you can't necessarily go find the players you need in free agency, and *most importantly* you are limited both in number of practices and the time spent at practice. One-on-one as a HC, or too much of it, leaves the team as a whole lacking.
Some will immediately say something to the tune of 'Saban is not a hands off coach'. This method is not hands off, it's very hands on. Just selective of where and how much resources that 'hands on' time is used. Anyone who has a focus on results and efficiency (which a Saban is) will look at resources applied vs. effectiveness so something like this has to have been considered.
Note I said first duty, not only or exclusively. Also, I said coach the coaches, not manage or supervise. That means if you want certain drills, behaviors, tactics, etc. you coach the coach in the 'what', 'why', and 'how' instead of the player. Why would you do that? A) resources, especially time B) if you're doing that as a HC, you're passing that to all players at once instead of 1 at a time. A HC can put his 'imprint' on a team AND at same time coaches in one fell swoop.
This would be more important in CFB because of the more transitory nature of your coaches (can't always find one that thinks like you do), you can't necessarily go find the players you need in free agency, and *most importantly* you are limited both in number of practices and the time spent at practice. One-on-one as a HC, or too much of it, leaves the team as a whole lacking.
Some will immediately say something to the tune of 'Saban is not a hands off coach'. This method is not hands off, it's very hands on. Just selective of where and how much resources that 'hands on' time is used. Anyone who has a focus on results and efficiency (which a Saban is) will look at resources applied vs. effectiveness so something like this has to have been considered.
This post was edited on 12/11/16 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 12/11/16 at 12:07 pm to axd9142a
This is what ever team does are tries to do, is not only getting the best players but also the best coaches and hopefully has a head coach that will let them do their job.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 12:12 pm to axd9142a
quote:
.....as asinine as this sounds
Your post certainly is asinine.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 12:20 pm to axd9142a
See: Dabo Swinney
Posted on 12/11/16 at 12:20 pm to ApexTiger
It's about leadership, building team and winning attitude culture.
The nega everythings won't understand.
The nega everythings won't understand.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 12:20 pm to axd9142a
Post more please..
Posted on 12/11/16 at 12:21 pm to axd9142a
How fricking stupid are you?
Posted on 12/11/16 at 12:24 pm to axd9142a
He's making final decisions, He's approving game plans, he's dealing with discipline, not only among players but coaching staff as well, h e deals with the AD. He has the final say on recruits, starters, and at the end of the day, he's responsible for the wins and losses. A good head coach knows his strengths and weaknesses and surrounds himself with the best people. If you don't like that, go pull for Lafayette.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 12:34 pm to jmswp4
The best example of this is Bobby bowden.
He was a CEO he hired the best coaches and let them coach especially oc and DC.
He was the master recruiter he got the prize recruits when he showed up in home.
It can be done.
He was a CEO he hired the best coaches and let them coach especially oc and DC.
He was the master recruiter he got the prize recruits when he showed up in home.
It can be done.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 12:34 pm to axd9142a
Holy crap I feel dumber after reading that nonsense.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 12:37 pm to BengalsLivesMatter
God you have to love the rant.
One posts says,"please post more".
The very next posts says," how fricking stupid are you?".
One posts says,"please post more".
The very next posts says," how fricking stupid are you?".
Posted on 12/11/16 at 1:50 pm to Rickdaddy4188
One is a question of sarcasm, the other is just sarcasm.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 1:54 pm to axd9142a
You confirmed in one post that you don't know anything.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 3:19 pm to axd9142a
Or, you hire a head coach to manage the whole thing....which is exactly which LSU did.
I know Orgeron wasn't the coach you wanted, but....you're reaching. Let it go, and let's see how O does. Maybe it'll be a disaster. Maybe it'll be great. Neither of us knows. No one does
I know Orgeron wasn't the coach you wanted, but....you're reaching. Let it go, and let's see how O does. Maybe it'll be a disaster. Maybe it'll be great. Neither of us knows. No one does
Posted on 12/11/16 at 4:35 pm to axd9142a
quote:
But he should be at least doing something.
RC
Miles was able to hold down the RC part, but couldn't hire a good OC and let him do his job. We think Coach O can do everything Miles was able to do. He can recruit, and he kept Aranda who is a great DC. Last piece of the puzzle is getting a good OC, and that's what he's doing. The sky is not falling.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 5:45 pm to WiscyTiger
quote:
The sky is not falling.
By god don't tell me the sky is not falling
signed, the Rant.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 5:52 pm to axd9142a
Wow I feel dumber for having read that
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