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Posted on 9/13/16 at 7:38 am
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10206 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 7:38 am
We should always have a guy like Etling in the program. A 3rd or 4th year guy, maybe not a superstar, but a solid QB with a winning attitude.

You look at HS football in Louisiana, Mississippi, and East Texas, the top programs are always graduating guys that could be Danny Etling 3-4 years from now. We should be signing one per year so that if our hot shot 4 or 5 star doesn't pan out we have an Etling to turn to.

It's nice to have him this year, but the truth is we should have had a similar option in 2008, 2010, 2014, and 2015.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66579 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 7:40 am to
Generally the guys who are willing to sign and possibly never play aren't good.

Posted by Tigers4life
The great US of A
Member since May 2004
1865 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 7:44 am to
Wasn't Mett a similar situation? Not sure.
Posted by Im4LSUnTN
Brentwood, TN
Member since Jul 2015
800 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 7:46 am to
Et tiling was a 4 star out of HS...same as BH.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32496 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 7:49 am to
I'm not really sure how LSU gets any quarterbacks at all. Les has been absolutely terrible with the position.
This post was edited on 9/13/16 at 7:50 am
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10206 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 7:50 am to
That's a good point, and to the previous post, I didn't realize Etling was that highly recruited.

I guess what I'm saying is, if your program's identity is going to be smashmouth football and dominating defense, then your QB targets in recruiting should be solid, dependable guys with all the intangibles.
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 7:51 am to
quote:

We should be signing one per year so that if our hot shot 4 or 5 star doesn't pan out we have an Etling to turn to.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10234 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 7:57 am to
Miles' is enamored by dual threat QBs that don't fit his scheme at all. He can't judge qb talent at all, but he is so stubborn he will force it where it doesn't fit. He should have been able to look at Harris who only played the position for two years in High School and known this kid is not going to project well in my system. But he is so devoid of imagination he can't think that deeply. Harris has terrible mechanics his film showed that. Miles still thinks he can rely on a strong running game to move the chains and just set up for deep balls running two wide outs deep with one check down.
This post was edited on 9/13/16 at 7:59 am
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68689 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:02 am to
LA doesn't produce qbs.


They end up on teams at other positions.

Ruben Randle
Terrance Magee
Mo Claiborne
John Diarse
Early doucet
Skyler Green

I know I'm missing quite a few, but you get the idea.

La qbs that did well and went drafted.

Dak Prescott, Stefan lefors and Eli.


That's about it and none of them played at LSU.

Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68689 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:03 am to
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Miles' is enamored by dual threat QBs that don't fit his scheme at all.


Dual threat qbs to start for Les.

Ryan Perrilloux, Brandon Harris.


Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32496 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:05 am to
Jefferson was a better runner than Harris. Maybe not faster but he made a lot of plays running.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68689 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:06 am to
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But he is so devoid of imagination he can't think that deeply. Harris has terrible mechanics his film showed that.


Although Les has final say, Harris is cams guy. Say what you will, but these guys discuss the players they want on their side of the ball.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68689 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:07 am to
quote:

Jefferson was a better runner than Harris. Maybe not faster but he made a lot of plays running.





And was listed as a pro style qb. Too many people equate being black as a dual threat.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10234 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:12 am to
And your point the only one worth calling a competent QB was Perriloux. JJ was labeled right or wrong as a dual threat also, he and BH are the same type of QB. Miles wants a mobile QB but they don't have to come from the "dual threat" genre. He is stuck on that what he has in Harris like JJ is a good athlete playing QB. Not an athletic QB with good mechanics. The first priority should be accuracy damn it, not how far he can chunk it, or how fast he runs the 40.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84991 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:22 am to
quote:

then your QB targets in recruiting should be solid, dependable guys with all the intangibles.



Everyone is looking for this guy.
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4745 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:22 am to
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JJ was labeled right or wrong as a dual threat


But, he wasn't. He was only labeled dual threat by those here who saw him as dual threat because he is black. To everyone else, he was a pro style qb.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84991 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:24 am to
quote:

Although Les has final say, Harris is cams guy.


This.

And if Harris turned out to be a Dak Prescott somewhere else this place would criticize Miles for missing out on him.

He was one of the highest rated QBs to come out of LA in a while. LSU had to have him.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84991 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:28 am to
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But, he wasn't. He was only labeled dual threat by those here who saw him as dual threat because he is black. To everyone else, he was a pro style qb.




Anyone that runs more than Mett or Matthew Stafford is considered a dual threat at the college level.

Jefferson averaged roughly 9 rushing attempts per game at LSU from 2009-2011 and rushed for 450 yards in 2010. What he was listed as coming out of high school is irrelevant when he was asked to run that often at LSU.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10234 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:28 am to
Are you sure? Admittedly, I have not gone back and read his recruiting profile. He never looked like a pocket passer his throwing motion was not very good. Harris actually has a better motion his feet are just never in line with his targets it seems.
Posted by prepsportsallday
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2013
3514 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:35 am to
quote:

you sure? Admittedly, I have not gone back and read his recruiting profile. He never looked like a pocket passer his throwing motion was not very good. Harris actually has a better motion his feet are just never in line with his targets it seems.


JJ was a pocket passer
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