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Why not walk Pinckney with 1B open and 2 outs??

Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:16 pm
Posted by VesperiaLSU
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:16 pm
Pinckney was hot as hell and 4-4 going into the final AB. With 2 outs and 1B open, you would think CJJ probably wants to walk him instead of giving him an opportunity to get a 3 run HR. Instead we challenged him with a fastball and let him score 2 runs. It just felt like a really hardheaded decision and we almost paid the price if not for Collins's save.
Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
Member since Sep 2004
16834 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:17 pm to
Because even with a HR they were still losing.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77418 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:18 pm to
So instead of pitching to him and trying to get him out, you would rather walk him with a 4 run lead and guarantee that the tying run came to the plate?

Not too smart. Good thing you arent coaching
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 10:19 pm
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77418 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:21 pm to
What bothers me more than your post, is that you somehow have 4 upvotes
Posted by VesperiaLSU
Baton Rouge Tigerland
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:22 pm to
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Because even with a HR they were still losing.


Well that decision definitely made the game much much closer than it needed to be, and we've seen so many last-inning crazy rallies over the years. As the HC you want to make decisions that maximize your team's chance to win and challenging Pinckney clearly wasn't the right decision regardless of how you frame it.
Posted by VesperiaLSU
Baton Rouge Tigerland
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:24 pm to
I think at that moment it's about picking your fight. You will need to get 1 out regardless, it just doesn't make sense to pick the fight with the hottest batter.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39328 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:29 pm to
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I think at that moment it's about picking your fight. You will need to get 1 out regardless, it just doesn't make sense to pick the fight with the hottest batter.

I disagree. The guy can’t hurt you because you have a four run lead and he can only drive in two (I think that was the case. I didn’t see the game because I’m nine hours ahead.) At that point, it’s about getting outs and limiting base runners. You pitch to him and take the 50% chance that he will get out. If he gets a hit, so what.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77418 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:35 pm to
quote:

I think at that moment it's about picking your fight. You will need to get 1 out regardless, it just doesn't make sense to pick the fight with the hottest batter.


If barry bonds came up in that situation you pitch to him. You are up 4, he cant tie it, walking him allows the next guy to hit a homer to tie it. Its pretty simple
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33483 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:41 pm to
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Pinckney was hot as hell and 4-4 going into the final AB. With 2 outs and 1B open, you would think CJJ probably wants to walk him instead of giving him an opportunity to get a 3 run HR. Instead we challenged him with a fastball and let him score 2 runs. It just felt like a really hardheaded decision and we almost paid the price if not for Collins's save.


Are you serious with this dumb shite? Dude could have hit a ball to the top of the PMAC and LSU would have still had the lead. So you are suggesting just giving the guy a free base so the NEXT guy can be the tying run???

I laugh my arse off every time I hear the "oh those LSU baseball fans are SO knowledgeable!" bullshite because of so many posts like this.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61838 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:45 pm to
quote:

What bothers me more than your post, is that you somehow have 4 upvotes


Perhaps the dumbest topic of the night. I saw it mentioned about 3 times in the game thread. Why give them a free base runner when he could hit the ball over the scoreboard and lsu would still have the lead?
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77418 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:47 pm to
No one with a basic understanding of the game would do that
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33483 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:58 pm to
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No one with a basic understanding of the game would do that


Probably the same dumbfricks who gave Stony Brook the victory lap.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
2852 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:11 pm to
The goal in that situation was to maximize the chance of winning the game not maximize the margin of victory. An 8-6 win was just as good as an 8-4 win. You seem more upset that the situation induced stress in you as a fan than in whether or not they won the game.
Posted by tjtiger9
MS
Member since Aug 2005
3844 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:19 pm to
I believe Pinckney came up to bat with two runners on in a 8-3 lead. Even if you walk him, the tying run is on deck and not at the plate. It was a 5 run lead when Pinckney was at bat. His single made it 8-5.
Posted by fairweatherfans
Member since Sep 2018
1275 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 7:35 am to
I don't care what it takes...I want Pinckney recorded as an OUT several times tonight !
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20405 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 10:01 am to
quote:

I think at that moment it's about picking your fight. You will need to get 1 out regardless, it just doesn't make sense to pick the fight with the hottest batter.

These are pitchers who struggle with control, and you want to walk the bases full? Did you not watch LSU's big inning?
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