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re: Why is the rant saying Zach Lee won't play FB (if he comes)

Posted on 6/8/10 at 9:37 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/8/10 at 9:37 am to
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what difference does it make? if you're that good, there isn't a competition

lee will be competing THIS year with a junior with a full year of experience and 2 years in the offense as well as a RS junior with almost a full year of experience and 3 years in the system

then, there is garret, who has a ton of experience in the system

lee won't even get the playbook for a few months

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There is a reason why there wasn't competition for the qb's or the position players. they were superior to everyone else.

positional players can transition rather easily

and there wasn't competition b/c stanford and UW had dogshit talent. LSU doesn't

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if you need a lsu example, les miles example, see pat peterson.

a positional player who didn't start for half a year without top players at CB. great example to compare to a QB facing a QB group with a ton of depth and 1 good performer (JJ)
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
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Posted on 6/8/10 at 9:38 am to
So the Sabanistas and NegaTigers can blame Les Miles for one more thing!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/8/10 at 9:38 am to
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I find it hard to believe that the kid would turn down a 7 digit bonus

i don't know if he'll be offered this. supposedly the dodgers don't have an interest in signing their 1st round pick

we got lucky if this is true
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 6/8/10 at 9:39 am to
First of all there is no indication that CG can even beat out JLee and now that ZLee was picked in the first assures that he will not play for LSU
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/8/10 at 9:40 am to
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First of all there is no indication that CG can even beat out JLee

nobody is assuming this

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now that ZLee was picked in the first assures that he will not play for LSU

no it doesn't
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/8/10 at 9:40 am to
Football wise I won't sweat it if we lose him. While I think he is a very good prospect, it's just going to be a very tough double duty for the guy. There isn't a very long list of guys doing this at those 2 positions.

Now losing him as a baseball prospect will suck
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/8/10 at 9:43 am to
yeah i mean i don't count on him being a FB savior, but i don't get why people have written him off playing FB at all

that's all i'm asking about

some people just seem dead set that if he comes here, he's done with football
Posted by Truetiger68
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
262 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 9:56 am to
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b/c the smartest of smart congregate here.


One of the funniest quotes Ive read in the Rant in a long time.

Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 9:58 am to
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why is the rant just assuming he's done with football?

the rantards have captured the Oracle of Delphi
This post was edited on 6/8/10 at 10:00 am
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4720 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 10:13 am to
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what difference does it make? if you're that good, there isn't a competition



lee will be competing THIS year with a junior with a full year of experience and 2 years in the offense as well as a RS junior with almost a full year of experience and 3 years in the system

then, there is garret, who has a ton of experience in the system

lee won't even get the playbook for a few months


quote:


There is a reason why there wasn't competition for the qb's or the position players. they were superior to everyone else.



positional players can transition rather easily

and there wasn't competition b/c stanford and UW had dogshit talent. LSU doesn't


quote:


if you need a lsu example, les miles example, see pat peterson.



a positional player who didn't start for half a year without top players at CB. great example to compare to a QB facing a QB group with a ton of depth and 1 good performer (JJ)


we'll have to agree to disagree.

my opinion, it doesn't matter what position or team you play on. If you are superior at your craft, you will play. Didn't tom brady beat out more experienced pro-bowl caliber qb in drew b? wasn't that team loaded with talent? Dan Marino comes to mind.

i'm not going to go through and list every example. Either the kid is elite or he isn't. My statement is, if he is in either baseball or football or both, then he stands to have an even larger finacial/professional opportunity than he was presented with last night.

it doesn't matter who's on the team in either sport. if he's that good, he will play and have a huge future.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/8/10 at 10:31 am to
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it doesn't matter what position or team you play on. If you are superior at your craft, you will play

to be a superior QB, you have to have a lot of knowledge + reps, which takes times to learn

the only way around this is to simplify your system (like UT and OU did) or live with a ton of mistakes

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Didn't tom brady beat out more experienced pro-bowl caliber qb in drew b?

bledsoe got hurt

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Dan Marino comes to mind.

that was in the 80s. college offenses are more advanced than the one marino played in miami initially


Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7178 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 10:34 am to
"'don't know if he'll be offered this. supposedly the dodgers don't have an interest in signing their 1st round pick'

we got lucky if this is true"

Since I posted my remark about the bonus, I have since read that the Dodgers have gone cheap lately and may not want to pay even market rate. I certainly wish the kid the best, but a skinflint organization could be GOOD for Tiger fans. A kid picked this high would almost certainly pay immediate baseball dividends and you never know with football.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9924 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 10:35 am to
Because they are dumb asses. If he doesn't play football, he doesn't get a full scholarship. He may turn down millions to play for LSU, but do you really think he will pay out of state tuition for the privilege? He will play football if he comes to LSU. However, I don't think he will come to LSU when all is said and done.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/8/10 at 10:37 am to
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we got lucky if this is true

we got very, very lucky
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 11:03 am to
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this seems pointless, redshirt in football but play baseball?

thats gonna count as a year of eligability



ughh what? No. If he redshirts in football and played in baseball (lets assume he stays at LSU for 5 years) He'd play baseball his first 4 years and play football his last 4 years. He'd have one year of just baseball at the beginning and one year of just football at the end. See: Chris Jackson.
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4720 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 11:47 am to
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bledsoe got hurt


and didn't get the job back when he wasn't. had to go to dallas only to get beat out by romo, another young qb who didn't have as much experience. a undrafted f.a.

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that was in the 80s. college offenses are more advanced than the one marino played in miami initially


excuse. you don't know how complex a system was then or is today. it was an explosive offense. football isn't rocket science. they use a lot of the same formations and plays today as they did in the 80's.

peyton manning, ben r., matt ryan, tony romo, Troy A, john elway, dan marino, jim kelly all came in and started over a more experienced qb in the n.f.l., there are ton's of examples pro and college. to say one can't is an excuse for failure.

It's why those guy's succeed. They don't say, gosh they have a good qb, a good rb, a good c.b., a good guard, ect. I can't play there.

the fact of the matter is, if lee or any great high school player is scared of the talent at lsu, what are they going to do if they are wanting to make it at the pro level? they have a lot deeper talent on the worst pro team than at lsu or any college for that matter. Yet, rookies come in and beat veterans out every year.
Posted by TT
Member since Nov 2007
982 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 12:45 pm to
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Why is the rant saying Zach Lee won't play FB (if he comes)


Because we are recruiting him as a QB
Posted by TexTgrTed
Parker County, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
5815 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 12:54 pm to
Longest of long shots, but maybe:

-this is a kid that looks at Mitchell & Jones with NC rings in 2 sports & thinks "damn, I'd like to do that".

-he just wants to experience playing in Death Valley & the Box before going to work for a living.
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