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re: Why didn't Terrance McGee redshirt last year?
Posted on 8/1/12 at 3:21 pm to thunderbird1100
Posted on 8/1/12 at 3:21 pm to thunderbird1100
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With the addition of Hill this year, that gives us 6 RBs. Hill is definitely playing too per the coaches...
Samething was said about McGee last year he only played in a few games. Don't put stock in anything that comes from the Les Miles camp. I don't mean that in a bad way, its just the way he operates. He tells the media all kinds stuff just for media consumption.
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Posted on 8/1/12 at 3:25 pm to sunnydaze
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he is a potential pro baseball guy so I think his years in college may not reach 4....
i cant tell if this post is a joke............
Posted on 8/1/12 at 3:27 pm to thunderbird1100
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So you'd be fine with Magee getting like 20-25 carries this year burning yup a year of eligibility?
yes. if he's not good enough to get more carries than that, then he likely never will be.
play special teams, move positions, or transfer. Most players arent happy going 2 years without playing
its not like we struggle to bring in RBs.
This post was edited on 8/1/12 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 8/1/12 at 3:55 pm to thunderbird1100
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Not every RB goes pro early
Especially 1 that doesn't get carries
Posted on 8/1/12 at 4:38 pm to south bama tiger
I don't ever see him as being an every down back, but I could see value in him as being a third down specialist bc he has some of the best hands on the team. I don't mind playing him but I can't say that he gained much "valuable" experience last year with the playing time he did get.
Posted on 8/1/12 at 4:46 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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Samething was said about McGee last year he only played in a few games. Don't put stock in anything that comes from the Les Miles camp. I don't mean that in a bad way, its just the way he operates. He tells the media all kinds stuff just for media consumption.
First off it's MAGEE, not McGee.
Second off my point was he played, as in, didn't redshirt. This thread is about redshirting. Hill is going to play, they even lined him up at FB. They are getting him on the field.
Posted on 8/1/12 at 4:50 pm to Lester Earl
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yes. if he's not good enough to get more carries than that, then he likely never will be.
play special teams, move positions, or transfer. Most players arent happy going 2 years without playing
its not like we struggle to bring in RBs.
You're treating RB different from everywhere else. So because Magee can't beat out 3 upper classmen in front of him he should just play special teams, move positions or transfer? Pretty dumb outlook for a young player.
We just have a huge logjam at RB, doesn't mean Magee isn't talented. It makes a lot of sense to get another year between Magee and the others in front of him so instead of only getting maybe 1-2 years of good playing time out of him we could get 2-3. Why not redshirt him and save him for down the line? We aren't taking any RBs this year in recruiting.
Posted on 8/1/12 at 5:39 pm to thunderbird1100
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You're treating RB different from everywhere else
well, it is different.
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So because Magee can't beat out 3 upper classmen in front of him he should just play special teams, move positions or transfer? Pretty dumb outlook for a young player.
I'm not saying that is what i think he should do. I am saying that is going to run through his head if he cannot see the field for a few years. Its just natural human instinct.
And it doesn't mean he's not good, if it goes down like that. He just may not be good enough for LSU.
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Why not redshirt him and save him for down the line? We aren't taking any RBs this year in recruiting.
Because its not a video game. He came here to play. Sitting 2 years if you are talented enough to play (in your mind) usually does not work out.
Even if you put a year between him, he'll still have Hilliard and Hill as JR backs. and Blue, Ware, and Ford all have 1 more year of eligibility after this year! Redshirting does not 100% present him the chance of ever being "the man". If it does, it is 1 year, and that is still 3 seasons away.
So we didn't take a RB this 2012 class, but we'll be loading up here shortly.
Not everyone is Steven Ridley, who is going to sit 3-4 years before not playing.
I just think RSing RBs is useless at a place like LSU. YOu have 4-5 guys that are all good enough. Usually if they aren't getting carries, they are at least playing on special teams, which makes our team stronger.
This post was edited on 8/1/12 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 8/1/12 at 5:47 pm to thunderbird1100
Because LSU wants the depth chart to be as appealing as possible for Leonard Fournette.
Posted on 8/1/12 at 6:01 pm to Lester Earl
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its not like we struggle to bring in RBs.
also bringing 25 new players in each year is making it much harder to get to a 5th year unless you're a multi-year starter
Posted on 8/1/12 at 6:24 pm to Lester Earl
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well, it is different.
In terms of players going pro early, this is not the case with Magee.
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I'm not saying that is what i think he should do. I am saying that is going to run through his head if he cannot see the field for a few years. Its just natural human instinct.
So instead of redshirting him letting him know there's greener pastures down the line when the upper classmen leave...you'd rather him eat up 25 meaningless carries again this year while not really separating himself class wise? It's really as simple as redshirting him to give him more reps down the line...once again, we're not taking any RBs this year, and only took 1 for 2012. There will be opportunities for more carries down the line.
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Because its not a video game. He came here to play. Sitting 2 years if you are talented enough to play (in your mind) usually does not work out.
Video game, really? Why do you keep saying 2 years? A redshirt is 1 year...he did play SOME last year. I would imagine a kid would be smart enough to realize 1 year of not playing at all while getting bigger/stronger/more mature and 2-3 years of significant playing is better than 1 year of barely playing (again) then only 1-2 years of significant playing.
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Even if you put a year between him, he'll still have Hilliard and Hill as JR backs. and Blue, Ware, and Ford all have 1 more year of eligibility after this year!
And the next year he'd only be a SOPHOMORE with 3 senior backs, 1 junior back and 1 sophomore back. As opposed to being a JUNIOR with 3 senior backs, 1 junior back and 1 sophomore back. You don't see the advantage of the former over the latter? He has more of a chance to play here with the former over the latter. Also, it's hard to imagine all 3 out of Ford, Blue and Ware all come back for their senior seasons. Point is if he continues to barely play like he would this year, he gets less carries all together throughout his career.
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So we didn't take a RB this 2012 class, but we'll be loading up here shortly.
No we took Hill for 2012, are taking no one for 2013 and will take probably 2-3 for 2014. Which means Magee has a great chance for a lot of playing time down the line IF he were to redshirt over not redshirting. This is really not hard to see. He's competing with 5 other guys right now, most of them upperclassmen...if you put a year between him and everyone else, clearly that opens up time down the line considering we'll have only taken 1 back in the 2012 and 2013 classes combined. This isn't tough to figure out.
Posted on 8/1/12 at 9:51 pm to thunderbird1100
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So instead of redshirting him letting him know there's greener pastures down the line when the upper classmen leave.
you expect him to wait 3 seasons at LSU before he is relevant(if that is the case)?
Just saying, that is unrealistic.
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we're not taking any RBs this year
We have 1 committed, the kid from Florida.
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Video game, really? Why do you keep saying 2 years? A redshirt is 1 year..
if you don't think he will get carries this year, why would he get them next year when we return every RB on our roster?
Yes, 2 years. The red shirt year, & next year.
Even as a JR he'd still have 2 guys ahead of him if he can never pass them. Thus not being in line to get a lot of carries until he is a SR.
This talk is all crazy anyway. We may need him this year, he may step up and prove to be better than most of those guys. Who knows. Redshirting is still stupid. This isnt some midlevel program who just lucked into a bunch of good RBs. I dont remember the lsat time we had bad RBs. We cherry pick who we want and we load up. There will always be too many bodies and only 1 ball. Just something we have to embrace.
Posted on 8/1/12 at 10:35 pm to thunderbird1100
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And the next year he'd only be a SOPHOMORE with 3 senior backs, 1 junior back and 1 sophomore back. As opposed to being a JUNIOR with 3 senior backs, 1 junior back and 1 sophomore back. You don't see the advantage of the former over the latter?
No, because you are forgetting about the guys we sign in 2014 and 2015. If MaGee is not good enough to get more carries now, what makes you think he will be 2 years from now? Not to sound cold or callus, but do you want him here in 2015 taking carries away from L Fournette or what ever other RB's we sign in 2014?
Let them play, if he's good enough he'll get more carries, if not then he won't. RS'ing him does nothing but give fans a sense of ease that they think we will have him as a 5th year SR.
This post was edited on 8/1/12 at 11:27 pm
Posted on 8/4/12 at 5:02 pm to H-Town Tiger
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If MaGee is not good enough to get more carries now, what makes you think he will be 2 years from now?
Will he not be better in 2 years than he is now?
Posted on 8/4/12 at 5:25 pm to LsuTool
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We always have good RBs coming in.
Posted on 8/4/12 at 5:33 pm to 777Tiger
It's true
Posted on 8/4/12 at 5:38 pm to adammwilson
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Will he not be better in 2 years than he is now?
will our other RBs not get better either?
Posted on 8/4/12 at 5:40 pm to StatMaster
No need. They leave early, depth
Posted on 8/4/12 at 5:48 pm to Lester Earl
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will our other RBs not get better either?
Wouldn't most of them be gone by the time he comes towards the end of his college career? Unless of course you are assuming recruits will be better than a guy who has been in one of the top college programs for years. Seems like a big assumption to me but it's fair enough.
Posted on 8/4/12 at 5:50 pm to adammwilson
so you want him to sit the bench for 3 years so he can play for 1?
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