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Posted on 7/16/17 at 8:46 am
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Posted on 7/16/17 at 8:47 am to Lacour
Alleva should have given him an ultimatum before they fired him.
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Posted on 7/16/17 at 8:48 am to Lacour
You mean when he got carried off field after arkansas 2015? Uh yeah
Posted on 7/16/17 at 8:48 am to BobLeeDagger
HAPPY TIMES,Lester is gone!!! 
Posted on 7/16/17 at 8:50 am to Lacour
He should have never made it past the A&M game.
I think he thought he was gone then, much more than he thought he was gone after the Auburn game.
I think he thought he was gone then, much more than he thought he was gone after the Auburn game.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 8:50 am to rattlebucket
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You mean when he got carried off field after arkansas 2015? Uh yeah
Why would he get carried off the field after being embarrassed 31-14?
Posted on 7/16/17 at 8:54 am to Jrv2damac
My bad. I meant aTm
Posted on 7/16/17 at 8:54 am to Lacour
Pride.
As Marcellus Wallace said "frick pride". Les would still be the coach today if he had taken that advice.
As Marcellus Wallace said "frick pride". Les would still be the coach today if he had taken that advice.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 8:58 am to Lacour
Les understood that you can't make decisions based on what the mob thinks you should do. That's how Joe Alleva hired Ed Orgeron and put the final nail in LSU football's coffin.
Unfortunately Les did not understand how to run an offense.
Unfortunately Les did not understand how to run an offense.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 9:00 am to tom
But what was so hard about letting an O coordinator do what he wanted?
He let the D coordinators do what they wanted
He let the D coordinators do what they wanted
Posted on 7/16/17 at 9:00 am to Lacour
He had some success. Even in the end his teams were good. He's just the only one who couldn't see his teams could have/should have been better.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 9:00 am to 1999
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Pride.
This. He always thought he was the smartest guy in the room.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 9:02 am to Lacour
It's funny that you mention this query Lacour. A co-worker and myself just discussed this issue yesterday. It boggles the mind why coaches do some of the things they do. Pure stubborness I guess. If he really had done a complete wholesale change on the offense, who knows what would have happened. Also , had he at least tried Lee on that fateful night or even tried Mett , I think we as fans would have been more apt to take that loss. I don't think I've ever seen a person more stubborn than Les Miles. Anyway, glad a new chapter has begun in LSU football.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 9:02 am to tom
9-6 is the worst thing that happened to Les in terms of his coaching philosophy.
In his mind this cemented the notion that his ground-n-pound could be THE WAY to beat every team.
That was followed by hubris and stubbornness.
In his mind this cemented the notion that his ground-n-pound could be THE WAY to beat every team.
That was followed by hubris and stubbornness.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 9:14 am to tbabino
He saw the game the way her saw it. Run first, limited mistake. Don't take changes, stay in game.
You coach what your comfortable with, likely how you were taught the game. If anyone has ever coached you know that it hard to flip it.
That being said, Nick saw the college game was changing and brought people in to teach his these new offensive wrinkles.
Les was ok with losing a game or two here and there. Nick never was and never will be. That's what separates good from great coaches, the fear of losing.
You coach what your comfortable with, likely how you were taught the game. If anyone has ever coached you know that it hard to flip it.
That being said, Nick saw the college game was changing and brought people in to teach his these new offensive wrinkles.
Les was ok with losing a game or two here and there. Nick never was and never will be. That's what separates good from great coaches, the fear of losing.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 9:17 am to Lacour
The thing that makes it a " fatal flaw" is that the person who possesses it is seemingly unable to change it. The dumbest guy in the cheap seats understood the problem. Kids in elementary school understood the problem. Your great grandmother understood the problem. Les never understood the problem.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 9:22 am to tbabino
I've always wondered if it had more to do with loyalty to Cam in not wanting to usurp his authority as OC at a time where Cam was undergoing cancer therapy and possibly near the end of Cam's coaching career. IMO, he had decided that he'd made enough money and was willing to stand by his buddy even to his own detriment knowing that the contract buyout money was there if The Powers that Be were ready for a change.
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Posted on 7/16/17 at 9:24 am to Lacour
He didn't know how
Posted on 7/16/17 at 9:29 am to Lacour
2008 fricked up Miles' head
Miles also felt invincible after a while and knew if he just would rack off 9-10 regular season wins he was safe
he adopted a style, with our talent, that all but guaranteed that result
no point in taking risks if you don't feel you have to
Miles also felt invincible after a while and knew if he just would rack off 9-10 regular season wins he was safe
he adopted a style, with our talent, that all but guaranteed that result
no point in taking risks if you don't feel you have to
Posted on 7/16/17 at 9:31 am to Lsupimp
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Les never understood the problem.
i think he understood it
i just don't think he gave a frick
2008 and 2011 were the 2 worst things that ever happened to Les in terms of being an elite-ish coach
2008 gave him shell shock and PTSD and 2011 gave him false confidence in bully ball
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