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Who are the leaders on our baseball team?
Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:11 pm
Which players have stepped up as leaders?
Who is rallying the team and firing up the troops when the chips are down?
Who is, by their words and actions, getting people to follow them?
Can we name a single player?
This team is plenty talented enough. Friday night showed us that.
But the way this team completely falls apart anytime ANYTHING doesn't go their way... it's a huge issue.
In fact, this team might have TOO much talent. Players are looking out for themselves and not putting in the work? Players aren't lifting each other up and pushing each other?
We've had a bunch of great individual performances... massive HRs with no one on base, great starting pitching performances, etc.
This team appears to have a personality issue, an identity issue, that coach has yet to be able to break through to them. I think he will, but until it happens, we are going to have issues when things don't go our way.
And with as hard as our schedule is, there will be times when things don't go our way.
Who is rallying the team and firing up the troops when the chips are down?
Who is, by their words and actions, getting people to follow them?
Can we name a single player?
This team is plenty talented enough. Friday night showed us that.
But the way this team completely falls apart anytime ANYTHING doesn't go their way... it's a huge issue.
In fact, this team might have TOO much talent. Players are looking out for themselves and not putting in the work? Players aren't lifting each other up and pushing each other?
We've had a bunch of great individual performances... massive HRs with no one on base, great starting pitching performances, etc.
This team appears to have a personality issue, an identity issue, that coach has yet to be able to break through to them. I think he will, but until it happens, we are going to have issues when things don't go our way.
And with as hard as our schedule is, there will be times when things don't go our way.
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:13 pm to LSUFanHouston
Milazzo
Trav
Jones
White
In no specific order
Trav
Jones
White
In no specific order
Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:20 pm to LSUFanHouston
quote:
In fact, this team might have TOO much talent
That must be it
Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:20 pm to LSUFanHouston
shite like this is so dumb.How would you or anyone else on this board know?
Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:23 pm to LSBoosie
quote:
shite like this is so dumb.How would you or anyone else on this board know?
It's tRant. People get frustrated with the results in front of them and cant see the forest for the trees. Thus, we get all of these micro analyzations when none of them really know the comings and goings in the locker room.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:23 pm to LSUFanHouston
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This team appears to have a personality issue, an identity issue,
The personality issue is that they are young and replacing a bunch of veteran guys. I am willing to bet this team is playing much differently in a few weeks.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:24 pm to LSUFanHouston
quote:
Which players have stepped up as leaders?
None of us are in practice or in the dugout to know.
quote:
Who is rallying the team and firing up the troops when the chips are down?
See above listed answer.
quote:
Who is, by their words and actions, getting people to follow them?
See answer number 1.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:25 pm to Dizz
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The personality issue is that they are young and replacing a bunch of veteran guys. I am willing to bet this team is playing much differently in a few weeks
That may very well be. The team may still be maturing and growing together.
But generally that it is a process that doesn't just magically happen.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:30 pm to LSUJML
quote:
Milazzo
Trav
Jones
White
This. But op isn't going to accept that because he cant see them out there fist pumping or getting in other guys faces.
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:37 pm to LSBoosie
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shite like this is so dumb.How would you or anyone else on this board know?
While true, I think it's a pretty obvious weakness of this team relative to last year's. But it speaks more to just how special last year's team was as much as it does this year's. But it does underscore how young this team is. Hard for a freshman to lead and almost impossible for someone who's struggling to lead. Tommy White seems like more of a quiet leader by example, kinda like Crews last year. He's more demonstrative than Crews, but I'm not sure he's a big "rah rah" guy.
Also hard for transfers to lead like you need them too. Like Bingham and Braswell may be great leaders, but they can't really say "this is LSU, this is not how we do it here, we have higher expectations, etc..." I think that mainly leaves Trav, who I'd bet is "the leader" if there is a single one. Milazzo could be, but I think you really need to be an every day player to take that role. I don't know about Pearson's personality, but don't know that he's producing enough to really step up in that role yet.
We'll never have a team like last year's, so it's not fair to this team (or last year's for that matter) to compare. But since it was LAST YEAR's team and they won the NC, it's inevitable. We just really miss guys like Dugas, Beloso, Jobert, and Skenes. Obviously, we miss their production as much as anything, but that production--along with the experience of the former 3, specifically Dugas and Beloso who were 5th year guys--allowed them to take on more vocal leadership roles.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:37 pm to Draco Malfoy
Hellmers is the vocal leader. You need guys who actually play and lead to step up.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:40 pm to Hot Carl
quote:
think it's a pretty obvious weakness of this team relative to last year's
Nah, people pick the low hanging fruit always. They love to turn to the intangible thing & blame it on that.
Most the time it is just a talent &/or experience gap. They do the same shite with the basketball team & McMahon. Must be a bad X & O coach because they lose!
Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:45 pm to LSBoosie
It’s easy to see that’s how
Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:49 pm to LSUFanHouston
I’ll send out a group text and advise
Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:50 pm to LSUJML
quote:
Milazzo
Trav
Jones
White
In no specific order
That is a sensible list. I think that White and Milazzo are the guys who probably wear it the best if that makes sense.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 5:23 pm to Lester Earl
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Nah, people pick the low hanging fruit always. They love to turn to the intangible thing & blame it on that.
Most the time it is just a talent &/or experience gap.
I agree. I just said it's A weakness, but certainly didn't mean to imply it was the only one or even one of the bigger ones. I think it's mainly the Jimmy's and Joe's. Jay may have slightly mismanaged this roster a bit by gambling so much on guys like Kling, Pearson, Neal (combined 0-25 with 9 Ks in SEC play so far), Frey, and Hurd really stepping up production wise. And the former 4 haven't yet (though Frey has been hurt both literally with his injury and the cluster in the outfield haven gotten even more crowded when Pearson was added to the mix after Milam's hot start) and may be a year away. Hurd hasn't either, but he won't be back next year. (Kling may not be either, but I think that's still up in the air).
I think Loer has been a pretty huge disappointment too that Jay was really counting on to be a high leverage, back of the bullpen guy. Coleman and Little as well to a certain extent. Still time for everybody to turn it around, but we are in serious risk of digging ourselves in a hole that will be really hard to get out of. That loss Saturday stung and may have serious long-term repercussions. I know it's only 1 game, but 3-3 is big difference between 2-4 with a trip to Fayetteville coming up and series with Vandy and at Tennessee looming the 2 weekends after that.
We'll see. That's part of the beauty of college baseball. It's a long season and some guys develop and some are gamers that step up in the postseason and play way over their heads. But no matter how it ends, the journey is always exciting, if often disappointing at points along the way. They rarely end like last year. And that's actually a good thing because we're able to appreciate the greatness of those teams. Not every team is gonna win it all, obviously. But if this one can develop into one playing good ball towards the end, it could go on a nice postseason run. Maybe not a NC run, but it could really set the '25 team up to be special if Jay can convince some borderline guys to come back and hit on the right portal guys to fill the missing holes.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 5:30 pm to Hot Carl
One more thing about leadership. I don't know how much of a difference it makes day-to-day, game-to-game. Probably a good bit for some teams and maybe not as much on others. But I think it does help prevent turning a 2-game losing streak into a 3 or 4 game one. And it helps shake off an arse-kicking in Game 2 of CWS Championship Series to be able to give an even bigger one the next day. Young guys look up to the leaders/vets, and if they see them calm and not freaking out, it makes it much easier to come to the park the next day and do the same. Teams can win with the coaches being the leader(s). But it's a lot easier if it's some of the players. We'll see how this particular one shakes out. Again, part of the beautiful journey that is a college baseball season.
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