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re: Which do you choose. Winning or Integrity?

Posted on 8/23/11 at 4:28 pm to
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38405 posts
Posted on 8/23/11 at 4:28 pm to
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without even knowing the facts


We will never know the actual facts, nor will the Police. I say we just say FTW, we roll with what we got and deal with it later.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202731 posts
Posted on 8/23/11 at 4:30 pm to
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you want players suspended without even knowing the facts



NO, But I gaurantee LES knows enough to do what needs to be done. You are just a homr and want JJ in for the The Ducks game and then IF we are gonna do anything lets do it for the NW st game. A SHAME if you feel this way.
Posted by Michael J
Member since Jan 2011
1673 posts
Posted on 8/23/11 at 4:32 pm to
No reason you can't do both. For the most part LSU does. Hopefully this is just temporary black eye.
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
20449 posts
Posted on 8/23/11 at 4:33 pm to
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Winning or Integrity?


Winning all day long.

Short of a player murdering somone, raping someone, or beating up a girl IDGAF. I always say this, but I'll say it again....when you buy NC t-shirts, they only say "'(insert year here) National Champions" on them, they don't have suspension/arrest records on them.

This post was edited on 8/23/11 at 4:34 pm
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 8/23/11 at 4:33 pm to
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Integrity


the program is more than these 4 players.

make the right call Les, these 4 players are NOT LSU football. They are a part of the tradition of LSU football. Letting them play cheapens that tradition.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 8/23/11 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

This is a false dichotomy, in my opinion. They aren't mutually exclusive. I want an athletic director, coach, and players who ensure both.


i could not agree more. one can certainly win with integrity. as to the rest of the post, all situations are not the same; life is not black or white. to crush a kids dreams and ruin his life without serious consideration and pretty damn certain proof of fault is irresponsible.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202731 posts
Posted on 8/23/11 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

the program is more than these 4 players.

make the right call Les, these 4 players are NOT LSU football. They are a part of the tradition of LSU football. Letting them play cheapens that tradition



CORRECT!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
107506 posts
Posted on 8/23/11 at 4:38 pm to
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The Third


quote:

. I will be 60 on the 30th of this month.


than you must remember billy cannon, who would lead the team in prayer every game and would never think of fighting or breaking curfew.



Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112426 posts
Posted on 8/23/11 at 4:42 pm to
Integrity. I started a similar thread on the poli board. I was surprised at how many posters went soft.
Posted by The Nuts
Cobra Kai Dojo, Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2011
229 posts
Posted on 8/23/11 at 4:45 pm to
Billy Cannon would get drunk and fight the police (especially across the river in Port Allen). And the players would frequent whore houses from New Orleans to Opelousas.

Cannon was the Original:
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 8/23/11 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

Billy Cannon would get drunk and fight the police (especially across the river in Port Allen). And the players would frequent whore houses from New Orleans to Opelousas.

Cannon was the Original:



Billy Cannon cheapened the tradition of LSU!!!!
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6629 posts
Posted on 8/23/11 at 4:48 pm to
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you want players suspended without even knowing the facts


YUP!

Shoot people... ask questions later
This post was edited on 8/23/11 at 4:49 pm
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57268 posts
Posted on 8/23/11 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

you want players suspended without even knowing the facts


Fact: Breaking Curfew + Fighting = Suspension Regardless
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
107506 posts
Posted on 8/23/11 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

Billy Cannon would get drunk and fight the police (especially across the river in Port Allen). And the players would frequent whore houses from New Orleans to Opelousas.

Cannon was the Original:


coach pepsodent paul had no clue of this...must be why he's still so revered for winning with integrity.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 8/23/11 at 4:50 pm to
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Billy Cannon cheapened the tradition of LSU!!!!



wow, your inability to recognize changing attitudes on a time line of society is just pathetic.
Posted by aglandry
lafayette
Member since Oct 2008
2574 posts
Posted on 8/23/11 at 4:50 pm to
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Miles can decide the appropriate punishment depending on the facts as they actually exist.




Coach Miles should and I feel will make the decision on the appropriate punishment based on facts,not rumors.Having said that,I believe that any of the players involved in the curfew violation or fight that have previously violated team rules should face a suspension because apparently they haven't learned from passed mistakes and set a bad example for young players,particularly.However, the decision is his and I would support his decision because I think he is a man of Integrity.
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14330 posts
Posted on 8/23/11 at 4:53 pm to
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than you must remember billy cannon, who would lead the team in prayer every game and would never think of fighting or breaking curfew.
this - so drunk on his arse a thursday night before a game in TS - had to sleep it off in the White Castle jail - after a dust up in one of the local watering holes
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202731 posts
Posted on 8/23/11 at 4:54 pm to
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wow, your inability to recognize changing attitudes on a time line of society is just pathetic.



He cares NOTHING about anything but LSU WINNING. Doesn't matter how. And if LSU ever losses its always the refs fault. As much as he prases Miles, He wants to do what it takes to make sure that JJ is on the field for the Duck game.
Posted by munchman
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
10321 posts
Posted on 8/23/11 at 4:56 pm to
You can't win LONGTERM without integrity....
Posted by The Third
Temple, Texas
Member since Jan 2010
145 posts
Posted on 8/23/11 at 4:57 pm to
To Skillet. The first LSU game that I ever attended was on October 31, 1959.

I do realize that in this country your are innocent until proven guilty. But I also realize that should these players play after the unfortunate media blitz, it will only confirm the nations perception of us. As someone who lives in Texas, I have grown weary of people saying "Lousy Anna" and calling me a Coon arse. Being a Coon arse is a badge of honor to me but I do not think that their intent is honorable. Suspensions are in order. It is the "smart" thing to do. It is unfortunate that perhaps innocent persons will be hurt. You have really got to be naive to believe that Coach Miles has not already determined what the truth is in this matter. I am sure he will act accordingly.
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