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re: What is it with this McMahon patience
Posted on 2/8/24 at 8:10 am to tigerbait2010
Posted on 2/8/24 at 8:10 am to tigerbait2010
This is year two of his rebuild. I couldn’t imagine thinking it’s ok to give up on a coach before year 3 after what he inherited, as long as you see improvement.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 8:16 am to RidiculousHype
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From year 1 to year 2 we went from bottom of the SEC to middle of the pack, so the trend is up. I'm willing to see if he can get us to upper half in year 3. If we stall or regress in year 3, then sure, it's time to start looking around.
LSU will not finish middle of the pack! LSU will lose a minimum of 4 out of the next 5 games after just losing 4 out of the last 5. The trend is not remotely up! If McMahon is a stock, I put a market price SELL order on him. LSU will finish about 10th or 11th in the SEC. That is not middle of the pack.
For the record, I am not a Will Wade fan. He was stupid enough to be caught insinuating offering money to J Smart. He cheated {before cheating was allowed under NIL}, got caught, and deserved to be fired. The problem I had was not Wade being fired but Woodward's choice of a mediocre coach at best to be his replacement.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 8:17 am to Locoguan0
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LSU football and women's basketball have a winning tradition; Men's basketball does not. MBB is going to be judged at a lower standard.
I’m glad I didn’t grow up to accept mediocrity. What a loser mindset to have
Posted on 2/8/24 at 8:38 am to tigerbait2010
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both arguably inherited a worse situation than McMahon
Posted on 2/8/24 at 8:39 am to tigerbait2010
quote:There is no argument dimwit. McMahon had no players at all at one point.
This board trashes Kim mulkey and Brian Kelly who both arguably inherited a worse situation than McMahon but there’s actually a base for this guy?
Posted on 2/8/24 at 8:40 am to Old Money
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I’m glad I didn’t grow up to accept mediocrity. What a loser mindset to have
Apparently, you grew up to be a moron who can't actually get out of your emotions and look at something logically. It is more difficult to recruit to a program that doesn't have a winning tradition. Simple as that. A retarded toddler could be the coach at Kentucky and they would still have top ten classes.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 8:43 am to Locoguan0
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It is more difficult to recruit to a program that doesn't have a winning tradition. Simple as that. A retarded toddler could be the coach at Kentucky and they would still have top ten classes.
Crazy how Wade was able to bring recruits to the shitstain you believe LSU has always been, cheating or not -- now that the NIL exists, McMahon can legally do what Wade did. It's just money after all... so, why hasnt he? Again, Wade did it immediately. Maybe Wade posesses an ability McMahon just doesnt have? I guess we shall see.
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 8:44 am
Posted on 2/8/24 at 8:44 am to tigerbait2010
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imagine thinking this is okay.
The improvement from last year to this year IS ok. It's better than I thought it would be.
Only a ridiculous person would have had expectations for this year beyond what this team has accomplished.
This was always a 3-4 year rebuild. I'm not convinced McMahan is the right guy. But, I'm more convinced than I was at the end of last year.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 8:50 am to NotaStarGazer
quote:Given the unknown situation LSU was in at the time I don't know that a top flight guy was willing to come.
The problem I had was not Wade being fired but Woodward's choice of a mediocre coach at best to be his replacement.
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 8:54 am
Posted on 2/8/24 at 8:51 am to The Pirate King
Wade won the sec in year 2. MM isn’t close to winning the sec
Posted on 2/8/24 at 8:52 am to Locoguan0
Can someone explain the Corey Chest situation to me? What’s the reason for the redshirt? And Mwani Wilkinson’s career sure has been disappointing.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 8:53 am to Old Money
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Crazy how Wade was able to bring recruits to the shitstain you believe LSU has always been, cheating or not -- now that the NIL exists, McMahon can legally do what Wade did. It's just money after all... so, why hasnt he? Again, Wade did it immediately. Maybe Wade posesses an ability McMahon just doesnt have? I guess we shall see.
Wade also didn't have to recruit year 1 in a program that was on the brink of possible sanctions. Any sensible person said this was a complete rebuild that would take at least 3-5 years after the Wade firing and mass exodus of players. He had 2 scholarship guys return. One coming off ACL surgery and one injured.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 8:53 am to tigerbait2010
How can you say Kelly or Kim inherited a worse situation when McMahon literally had 0 players? The shite some of you people say on a daily basis just boggles my fricking mind
Posted on 2/8/24 at 8:54 am to moneyg
Basketball isn’t a 4 year rebuild sport. This isn’t football, we don’t need 60 top line guys and another 20 good players. Also the best players don’t stay 4 years in cbb.
We now have the portal as well so you can essentially rebuild a team each year.
You need 7 or 8 guys in bball, you can recruit or get them via portal. Also a sport where freshmen that are good can absolutely dominate.
If a coach can’t get a team to the tourny by year 3 then it’s time to let them go.
We now have the portal as well so you can essentially rebuild a team each year.
You need 7 or 8 guys in bball, you can recruit or get them via portal. Also a sport where freshmen that are good can absolutely dominate.
If a coach can’t get a team to the tourny by year 3 then it’s time to let them go.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 9:03 am to Big4SALTbro
Doesn’t seem like men’s basketball is much of a priority from the decision makers at LSU. Mac will definitely get next year. And if next year is more of the same, how do we attract a high profile coach with outdated facilities?
Posted on 2/8/24 at 9:04 am to tigerbait2010
What did the men’s team have one player left when McMahon was hired ?
Posted on 2/8/24 at 9:05 am to Ponchy Tiger
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What did the men’s team have one player left when McMahon was hired ?
So why recruit a player only to redshirt him?
Posted on 2/8/24 at 9:08 am to Ponchy Tiger
I think 0 and two returned. We likely would have had more if our AD didn’t have the team find out via Twitter days before a tourny game.
Scotty botched the communication of the firing about as bad as you can.
That did MM no favors but he did bring some guys with him and get others.
The portal allowed for all the guys to go but gave MM a new advantage that others didn’t have yet
Scotty botched the communication of the firing about as bad as you can.
That did MM no favors but he did bring some guys with him and get others.
The portal allowed for all the guys to go but gave MM a new advantage that others didn’t have yet
Posted on 2/8/24 at 9:09 am to Big4SALTbro
quote:This is all cool now but when McMahon first got here and with possible sanctions looming no great player was going to come.
Basketball isn’t a 4 year rebuild sport. This isn’t football, we don’t need 60 top line guys and another 20 good players. Also the best players don’t stay 4 years in cbb.
We now have the portal as well so you can essentially rebuild a team each year.
You need 7 or 8 guys in bball, you can recruit or get them via portal. Also a sport where freshmen that are good can absolutely dominate.
If a coach can’t get a team to the tourny by year 3 then it’s time to let them go.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 9:09 am to redfishfan
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Wade also didn't have to recruit year 1 in a program that was on the brink of possible sanctions. Any sensible person said this was a complete rebuild that would take at least 3-5 years after the Wade firing and mass exodus of players. He had 2 scholarship guys return. One coming off ACL surgery and one injured.
I am glad you pointed out what the actual problem was. Thank you
Kinda wild how the year before Wade took over LSU went 10–21 (2–16 SEC) and he turned it around immediately. We almost forget how good of a coach he was due to the biased fake news media hating him Now our fans are in alignment with those who campaigned for our destruction. Sad.
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