re: What does LSU need to secure a national seed?

5-2 in the last reg. season games. (got Centenary next mid-week), then 2 wins in SEC tourney. Isn't SEC tourney double elimination? If so, then we would be 43-17. Surely that would get us a top 8.

no, you're just an arrogant a-hole.

UGA wasn't in the top 8 RPI last year and went 2 and out in the SEC tourney.

They got the national seed because they won the SEC.

What was Cal. State's RPI last year?

17, how did they manage to get a national seed?

In addition to the other goodness on our resume, we have only lost 2 in a row once this season.

Only other top 25 RPI team who can say that is Rice.

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If we win a power conference, we should get a national seed. That's all he was saying but I guess you're too big of a douche bag to understand logic. They do look at things other than RPI, and LSU has the new stadium and tradition factor going for them.

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You are right, if we win the SEC outright we should get one. This is not a year where the SEC will get two national seeds in my opinion based on the pseudo RPI's. Two will go to the state of Texas, two to the ACC, two to the left coast, which leaves 2 spots. If Fla wins the SEC then they get the seed along with probably Miami.

The reason the RPI ratings that we have available are fouled is that the numbers that the selection team uses to select the bracket and seeds are not made public. There are a few people who think they know the system that try to duplicate those rankings for the benefit of us to argue over, i.e.'s Boyds website and Warren Nolan.

The selection team will use their formula's to select a defendable bracket(s) and not publish their numbers so that they don't get beat up after the fact with their own data, hence their we'll never know thier exact data that they use.

They do not use strictly those RPI's as you said but waver from them only to add some geograhical balance to a what is called a "national" tournament.

No longer is money the biggest consideration as it was in the old days and newer stadium are nice but not a big factor either as many places are beginning to have nice facilities especially in the south and southwest. How else do you justify playing anything at any of the Sou. California teams places. They are so small and do not draw but yet they still get seeds so you can toss out the money as a over riding motivator for the NCAA.

My comment related to the fact that at present we are way down the list on either of the two simualted ratins listed above and will not be able to slip on a banana peel down the stretch and expect to recover.

Fla. Versus LSU this weekend is huge!! Their is not much room for error because as said before I beleive the SEC gets only one national seed this year. Presently we are in a three way tie for the SEC lead and we are third out of those three in the pseudo RPI rankings.

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The reason the RPI ratings that we have available are fouled is that the numbers that the selection team uses to select the bracket and seeds are not made public. There are a few people who think they know the system that try to duplicate those rankings for the benefit of us to argue over, i.e.'s Boyds website and Warren Nolan.

The selection team will use their formula's to select a defendable bracket(s) and not publish their numbers so that they don't get beat up after the fact with their own data, hence their we'll never know thier exact data that they use.

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Not true. The NCAA began releasing their weekly RPI a few years ago. They normally don't release the first until sometime in April. LINK

The RPI formula on other sites are pretty accurate.

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They do not use strictly those RPI's as you said but waver from them only to add some geograhical balance to a what is called a "national" tournament.

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Go back and look at recent top 8 seeds and compare that to their RPI. I think you will be shocked to see how many top 8 seeds weren't in the RPI top 8.

The RPI is just one of several factors used.

and Cal. State was out of the top 16 last year and got a national seed. By RPI, which shouldn't have that much variability, they probably shouldn't have hosted a regional, much less a Super Regional

Long Beach State was out of the top 20 in RPI but still hosted.

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you won't know who is in what place of the RPI data base that the NCAA uses

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I posted the link to the current NCAA RPI and you're still repeating this garbage?