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We will be ok. Chavis has a system that wrecks havoc and breeds playmakers
Posted on 8/11/12 at 12:26 am
Posted on 8/11/12 at 12:26 am
I keep thinking about what he means to the team. Fearless, over the top confidence and swag. He had guts and rare playmaking ability. I saw a interview with Eddie kenison not to long ago (Eddie Eddie Eddie ), he basically said you have to be a little crazy to be a punt returner and this is where it stings. 1 hopper, 2 hopper in your face, didn't matter. Much like PP7 he was fearless in that regard (although Obj will be a fantastic returner).
The thing is, as a nickle back, he was somewhat a product of chavis' system. We have many similar body types recruited on the team for that reason. Tm7 made lsu last season as much as lsu made tyran. Tyrans natural position is FS for that reason. I would not be surprised at all to see a FS converted for nickle and dime packages. Honestly, he was not an elite cover corner (although I was anxious to see his progress), I think he was just allowed to roam and would be the case for whoever could fill that role. I remember brooks having a monster game in Tyrans absence. Why? Because chavis put him in position to do so. Blitzing off the edge and covering slots will be handled. I promise you, his special teams contributions are more important (weather it be gunner or PR). But make no mistake, the staff has learned alot from tyran as much as tyran learned from the coaches. His spirit will live on. Obj on returns, Landry on coverage and one of our very talented DB's will take care of the nickle set. It's seams very natural for alot of guys with speed to do so.
He will be missed, but last year, I thought brooks was at least equal to tyran. I am not taking away anything from him, but I think he is replaceable (by committee) without much of a drop off. As a bonus we might have a better pass defense.
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The thing is, as a nickle back, he was somewhat a product of chavis' system. We have many similar body types recruited on the team for that reason. Tm7 made lsu last season as much as lsu made tyran. Tyrans natural position is FS for that reason. I would not be surprised at all to see a FS converted for nickle and dime packages. Honestly, he was not an elite cover corner (although I was anxious to see his progress), I think he was just allowed to roam and would be the case for whoever could fill that role. I remember brooks having a monster game in Tyrans absence. Why? Because chavis put him in position to do so. Blitzing off the edge and covering slots will be handled. I promise you, his special teams contributions are more important (weather it be gunner or PR). But make no mistake, the staff has learned alot from tyran as much as tyran learned from the coaches. His spirit will live on. Obj on returns, Landry on coverage and one of our very talented DB's will take care of the nickle set. It's seams very natural for alot of guys with speed to do so.
He will be missed, but last year, I thought brooks was at least equal to tyran. I am not taking away anything from him, but I think he is replaceable (by committee) without much of a drop off. As a bonus we might have a better pass defense.
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Posted on 8/11/12 at 12:36 am to dreaux
I SIAP, we may just have another "TM" waiting to play right now, who has already practiced and everything.
Remember, he was a true freshman when he started playing.
I know, I know but not all true freshman play. True, however, he did, Patrick Peterson did, Micah Eugene?
I agree with you, Dreaux.
Remember, he was a true freshman when he started playing.
I know, I know but not all true freshman play. True, however, he did, Patrick Peterson did, Micah Eugene?
I agree with you, Dreaux.
Posted on 8/11/12 at 12:39 am to dreaux
TM made the spectacular play but LSU will be fine. There is plenty of talent to step up and I don't think the loss of this player will hurt LSU nearly as bad as some are projecting. It may cost them some attention, but no losses.
Posted on 8/11/12 at 12:40 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
There is plenty of talent to step up and I don't think the loss of this player will hurt LSU nearly as bad as some are projecting. It may cost them some attention, but no losses.
Spot on.
Posted on 8/11/12 at 12:45 am to la_birdman
Ranking players of importance IMO
Mettenburger
Reid
Lonergran
Tm7
Logan
Simon
Montgomery
Faulk
Ware
Minter
Mingo
Obj
Landry
Hurst
Loston
Ford
Freak
La'el
Shepard
Copeland
Hillard
(linebacker)
We loaded
Mettenburger
Reid
Lonergran
Tm7
Logan
Simon
Montgomery
Faulk
Ware
Minter
Mingo
Obj
Landry
Hurst
Loston
Ford
Freak
La'el
Shepard
Copeland
Hillard
(linebacker)
We loaded
Posted on 8/11/12 at 1:03 am to dreaux
Exactly, Ron Brooks just stepped right in last year. So there is a drop off but not near as big as some make it out to be.
Posted on 8/11/12 at 2:28 am to jocvh
I just see us using more base 4-3 more this year...but shite I can't wait to see all these Freshman play this year...
Posted on 8/11/12 at 2:54 am to AmiteWarrior04
Hopefully, just hopefully things will start to pick up themselves before we face SEC teams.
Posted on 8/11/12 at 4:34 am to VesperiaLSU
The Tigers have players, thats not the worry. It would appear that the real concern is there something going on at the school? Last year with the fighting and now this. These are tough things for coaches to clean up. You have huge cultural differences between the players and those that are in charge. I can only imagine how tough it would be from day to day to make sure things are a least close to being right. And that issue is everywhere, not just LSU.
Posted on 8/11/12 at 5:20 am to hamttx
These things happen at every major school. I live in the Knoxville area and the Vols are constantly dealing with issues up here. LSU is actually fortunate for how little we have had to deal with off the field issues.
Posted on 8/11/12 at 5:35 am to dreaux
Dont go full retard. Mathieu changed the momentum of a couple games.....Oregon opening strip fumble and touchdown, west virginia interception before half, punt return against arkansas, and punt returns against georgia
Posted on 8/11/12 at 5:45 am to dreaux
The term is "wreaks havoc"
Please correct it.
TIA
Please correct it.
TIA
Posted on 8/11/12 at 6:30 am to dreaux
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The thing is, as a nickle back, he was somewhat a product of chavis' system.
Yep. In 2009, Wisconsin did somtheing similar with unheralded true freshman Chris Borland. The Wisconsin Badger's 2009 stat line looked eerily similar to Mathieu's from 2010.
Borland - 54 tackles, 10.5 tfls, 5 sacks, 5 forced fumbles, 3 fumble recoveries, 1 int
Mathieu - 57 tackles, 8.5 tfls, 4.5 sacks, 5 forced fumbles, 3 fumble recoveries, 2 ints
Mathieu was an ideal candidate for the position with his instincts, aggressiveness, and penchant for finding the ball. But Chavis put him in a very unique position to be a playmaker.
Posted on 8/11/12 at 6:48 am to dreaux
I would think having lockdown corners would be the key. Maybe that's why Chavis said we would play more base 4-3 this year.
Posted on 8/11/12 at 7:07 am to dreaux
Well said
Tyrann was explosive because he realized the power of his conviction. Call it swagger, or whatever, the truth is he played with conviction and great timing. Amazing what the mind is capable of. None of us can doubt that he has raised this awareness in his teammates. We saw it when Brooks played in his place last year and we will see it from someone else this year. I'll miss watching him wreak havoc, but I'm grateful for what he brought to us, to LSU, and to football.
He has shown the way, and we're better for it.
Tyrann was explosive because he realized the power of his conviction. Call it swagger, or whatever, the truth is he played with conviction and great timing. Amazing what the mind is capable of. None of us can doubt that he has raised this awareness in his teammates. We saw it when Brooks played in his place last year and we will see it from someone else this year. I'll miss watching him wreak havoc, but I'm grateful for what he brought to us, to LSU, and to football.
He has shown the way, and we're better for it.
Posted on 8/11/12 at 8:59 am to fr33manator
quote:
The term is "wreaks havoc" Please correct it.
Please stfu. It was on purpose.
Posted on 8/11/12 at 9:03 am to dreaux
OMG Calm down people the Tigers will be fine.
Posted on 8/11/12 at 9:05 am to cajunjj
The defensive ends will have to pick up the slack in the passing game and create pressure with a 4 man rush.
I'm confident LSU will still have a top 5 defense this year.
I'm confident LSU will still have a top 5 defense this year.
Posted on 8/11/12 at 9:12 am to Powerman
I'm not worried overall, yea it sucks, obviously nobody wants him off this team (from an on the field stand point). But we will move on, we have recruited for it, we have the coaches for it as well.
Last year yes TM7 made huge plays that turned the momentum in several games. This year someone else will have to; also this year we will have an offense to take some pressure off the defense. I mean those last 3 games it was almost unfair, I was in the stands getting upset when our defense or special teams didn't do something spectacular, because we knew the offense wouldn't. This year will be different
Last year yes TM7 made huge plays that turned the momentum in several games. This year someone else will have to; also this year we will have an offense to take some pressure off the defense. I mean those last 3 games it was almost unfair, I was in the stands getting upset when our defense or special teams didn't do something spectacular, because we knew the offense wouldn't. This year will be different
This post was edited on 8/11/12 at 9:13 am
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