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Turning point?

Posted on 4/8/16 at 8:45 am
Posted by LlyodChristmas
The Abandoned Jazzland
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Posted on 4/8/16 at 8:45 am
Was last night the turning point of the season or am I just living in the moment? One of the better performances in the past few years in my opinion. Tonight is obviously a crucial game so I'm hopeful they can continue the hot streak of this game (minus the 9th inning) and get that W. Also, I'm still confused as to what happened with that inside the park hr last night. I was at the game so I was never explained how play wasn't stopped because from my pov at the game, it looked like the ball got stuck. I'm sure they mentioned something about it on tv or radio, but i never got to see it nor hear it.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 8:47 am to
The play should have been stopped but the outfielder grabbed a bullpen ball and threw it in. He should have not done anything and made the umps make the decision. Also it wasn't an inside the park home run they ruled it a 4 base error on the third baseman.

If it is a "turning point" I think it started in the second game last weekend and the insertion of Romero into the lineup. Him and Deichmann actually have the pop to scare opposing pitchers.They lacked that early in the year.
This post was edited on 4/8/16 at 8:50 am
Posted by LlyodChristmas
The Abandoned Jazzland
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/8/16 at 8:50 am to
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The play should have been stopped but the outfielder grabbed a bullpen ball and threw it in. He should have not done anything and made the umps make the decision. Also it wasn't an inside the park home run they ruled it a 4 base error on the third baseman.




I thought I heard something about him using a different ball but it makes sense if it was a 4 base error
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
13047 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 8:53 am to
The ball was lost because VU had way too much crap in the bullpen. The VU player grabbed a random bullpen ball and threw it in which made it look like the ball was easily retrievable.

It seems like the protocol now is to let the play go then go out to see if the ball is lost/stuck. It must have to do with umpires being out of position if the ball is still in play.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33484 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 8:56 am to
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Was last night the turning point of the season



Don't over-dramatize one single baseball game. It is a very common fallacy here to take one single game and draw ridiculous conclusions, especially in baseball. Come back a couple weeks from now based on later results and see if you think this one game turned the season around.


quote:

I'm hopeful they can continue the hot streak of this game (minus the 9th inning)


That 9th inning has zero meaning. None. Some jackass here last night argued that by giving up 4 runs in the 9th, LSU would SWEEP THE SERIES. Where do you people come up with this crap? Giving up 4 runs in the 9th of a 13-0 games is as meaningless as man nipples.
Posted by asullivan12
Many, LA
Member since Nov 2015
1880 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 8:59 am to
I don't think he was referring to just last night. The past 4 games, LSU has put up a lot of runs and has hit really well.
Posted by lsufan31
MS
Member since Mar 2013
2177 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 8:59 am to
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the protocol now is to let the play go



I thought the rule was that the fielder had to raise his hands to indicate that the ball was stuck or out of play.....the play would be halted, and then officials would make a ruling.
Posted by LlyodChristmas
The Abandoned Jazzland
Member since Jan 2013
2168 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 9:03 am to
quote:

Don't over-dramatize one single baseball game. It is a very common fallacy here to take one single game and draw ridiculous conclusions, especially in baseball. Come back a couple weeks from now based on later results and see if you think this one game turned the season around.




quote:

don't think he was referring to just last night. The past 4 games, LSU has put up a lot of runs and has hit really well.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
65988 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 9:05 am to
quote:

the play would be halted, and then officials would make a ruling.


that wouldn't make any sense.
Posted by asullivan12
Many, LA
Member since Nov 2015
1880 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 9:05 am to
You're right. Fielder has to throw his hands up and let the umpire come check it. Otherwise, if you allowed the play to go, you would have no way of knowing how the ball was lying.
Posted by lsufan31
MS
Member since Mar 2013
2177 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 9:11 am to
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that wouldn't make any sense.


That's the way they explained it a few weeks ago when I think Reid or someone else hit an in the park homer. Ball was stuck, out fielder raised his hands, and then continued to try and retrieve the ball. Since he did so, and did not wait for officials to halt the play, the play stood as if the ball was playable.
Posted by Drakeo1990
Member since Mar 2015
308 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 9:46 am to
Umpires will never halt a play for this situation. Its better for them to overturn an inside the park home run into a ground rule double than to stop the play in the middle of things and the call comes out to be that the ball was playable.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
9804 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 9:54 am to
The grounds rules are made by the home team and explained during the coach's pregame meetings. It's apparent the bullpen bench is in play and the Vandy playerws should have been aware.

No big deal in a 10-0 game but imagine the conversation if it were a 2-1 superregional.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56520 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 10:07 am to
It probably was a turning point...but not in the absolute way you are thinking.

This team is NOT where it needs to be and it has several things that need to happen before it could make a run at Omaha. However, you can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

It's going to be interesting to see what this team looks like in 4-6 weeks.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36046 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 10:18 am to
quote:

Was last night the turning point of the season or am I just living in the moment?


Actually you may be 4 or five days late.
If we continue to improve and if we continue to play well; people will look back on the Auburn series and the turnaround on the road which began with Poche's stellar job at Auburn.

Hopefully last night was a carryover from last weekend, and we have started a real trend. Good pitching, timely hitting, aggressive baserunning, and good D.
Posted by TIGER62
METAIRIE, LA
Member since Aug 2005
2219 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 10:25 am to
ground rules - ball under bench - still in play
blame vandy coach - covered in ground rules before the game
you did not see lsu player slow down
Posted by lsufan31
MS
Member since Mar 2013
2177 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 10:59 am to
quote:

Umpires will never halt a play for this situation


Tell that to the guy on watch espn. Because he specifically said, the defender should have held his hands up in the air, and not continue trying to retrieve the ball- to indicate that the ball was out of play and the umpire would have halted play.

ETA: the specific play I'm referring to is the one a few weeks ago- not the one last night.
This post was edited on 4/8/16 at 11:01 am
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 11:03 am to
imo, there is no such thing as a "turning point" in baseball. this team is starting to mature, perhaps gel. teams do this and very young teams really have to do this. improvement, esp in baseball, does not happen in an arithmetic fasion. we may lay an egg tonight.
Posted by Drakeo1990
Member since Mar 2015
308 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 11:28 am to
yeah i'm not sure what exactly the rule is for the bullpen and probably wasn't a good example of what I meant but for instance last year when the ball got stuck under the padding they let it play out then they could determine play stands or ground rule double as opposed to halting the play and ruling that it should't have been a ground rule double. Seems like with the bullpen issue is either the rule isn't clear, getting across to the other team, or its their own fault for not remembering.
Posted by NakaTrash
Texas Hill Country
Member since Dec 2013
6139 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 11:52 am to
Turning point? Ya got me. (Though I do think our position guys are really growing up.). But that was a dang fun game to watch.
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