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re: timing is everything

Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:27 am to
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:27 am to
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Take final week performances from Auburn and LSU and tell me who you think would win if they played.




The record and ranking (or lack thereof in the case of Arkansas) didn't matter, now did it?

You can do all this "what if, what if" stuff until you're mentally exhausted but when you're done the fact remains that we beat Auburn. We're the only ones to do it. They're a much improved team since last season.


Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164137 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:27 am to
It doesn't since you said LSU quit after Ole Miss and they destroyed A&M but keep on trying.
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31013 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:31 am to
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Auburn beating #1 Alabama


This is true.


quote:

pretty much running at will on them


Hmmmm, not really. Tre Mason had a great game but they hardly ran at will. It's Saban's kryponite: A running QB. Marshall got more accurate as the season progressed.

If they ran "at will" on them, the score wouldn't have been what it was and it wouldn't have come down to that final play. That was Saban's screw up with putting those walruses out there instead of the cover unit.

We played down to Arkansas, like we usually do, and I do wish we'd stop doing that.

But the fact remains that we won. Guess you can't please some "fans." Even when we win.
Posted by GarmischTiger
Humboldt County
Member since Mar 2007
6609 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:35 am to
You said LSU quit, not me. I said the team was done after Ole Miss, and they were.

This is not hating on LSU. This is how the season played out. Kinda like last season. It is what it is. The win against Auburn was great, but you're kidding yourself if you think we were playing better than Auburn late in the year.

They beat two teams we couldn't.
Posted by GarmischTiger
Humboldt County
Member since Mar 2007
6609 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:45 am to
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Guess you can't please some "fans." Even when we win.
If this is directed at me, I'm very pleased with this team and the way they played this year. I've been a Tiger fan all my life, and like every Tiger fan younger than 60 or so, I've seen them lose at least one game every year. The team that lost to Ole Miss and struggled with Arkansas is very much in the mold of LSU teams I grew up watching - and loving.

I'm not disrespecting our team or their effort this season. I'm pointing out that they were playing considerably better earlier in the year, while Auburn wasn't. And that the loss to Ole Miss is a HUGE reason the team gave less than a shite - or seemed to - about the last game of the season. These two things combined, I posit Auburn would have handed us our arse had we played them to end the season.

And I'm not a "fan"
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53417 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:47 am to
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What DID we do? 3rd place in the SEC West. Sorry that I have higher expectations than that.


We established an offense and found out that our OC hire was a slam fricking dunk. We set records in a rebuilding year. We lost 11 to the NFL and still have a chance for 10 wins. Pay attention and learn to appreciate what's going on. You sound like a spoiled little bitch. "I have higher expectations than that". Who the frick are you?
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31013 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:49 am to
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I said the team was done after Ole Miss, and they were.



Wrong again. You said it yourself:

quote:

Beating the reigning Heisman winner meant something


That game was after the Ole Miss game, correct?

I'm not trying to be disrespectful or anything of the sort. I've always thought of you as a good poster and still do.

I'll be the first to admit that I'm one of the biggest LSU homers out there and I hated everything about that Ole Miss game. A good friend that I've known since I was able to walk (I'm 40 now), he's well older than me, always told me, "Be prepared to lose." Not saying we'll lose, but be ready for it. And if it doesn't happen, all the better.



But you aren't taking into consideration a couple of things.

Beating the team with the Heisman winner, giving them their first loss on the road in almost 2 years, us beating the team that is now in the BCSNG, doesn't mean anything to you?



But everyone has an opinion. Again, not trying to be disrespectful or anything like that so please don't take it personally, I just think you're not looking at the big picture. That's all.
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 12:56 am
Posted by GarmischTiger
Humboldt County
Member since Mar 2007
6609 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:02 am to
Roger birdman. 44 here. Let me replace "done" with "nothing to play for" - or better, "not much to play for."

I enjoyed the hell out of the A&M game. I'm proud as hell that their screaming douche-nozzle quarterback did not earn a win on our field. I'm proud of the effort in every game this year - the Auburn game included.

And I HATE Auburn. It was a simmering dislike until they bought a QB, got caught and still managed to get away Scott free.

I maintain my point - so we disagree. But I do not diminish or pooh-pooh the effort and commitment of this team.
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
65101 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:03 am to
You'd think people that claim to be following football for so long would quit being enough of a dumbfrick that utilizes the transitive property as an argument.






This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 1:06 am
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68593 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:04 am to
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We play them late in the season they're likely the ones stepping on our neck. After Ole Miss, we were done.


ok

once again, a team from alabama needed a shite load of luck to get into the title game. really if we had their luck, we beat uga, beat ole miss, and go up 14-0 against bama and score 31 pts in the first half. See what a lil luck can get you.
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 1:07 am
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
65101 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:05 am to
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We play them late in the season they're likely the ones stepping on our neck.


I wonder if every fanbase of an underdog who pulled an early season upset thinks like this.

I don't look that hard for such misery, but I've yet to see it outside of here.
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31013 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:06 am to
Gotcha.

We disagree, like you said but people do that.


We both cheer (insanely at times) for our Tigers.


quote:

It was a simmering dislike until they bought a QB, got caught and still managed to get away Scott free.



Ugh. I hated them that year. I still don't like $cam Newton.

But I will be pulling for them. FSU is one of the teams I can't stand. Now if they were playing Alabama..... it would be different.


I apologize if I ruffled any feathers. That's not what I intend to do on here at all.


This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 1:10 am
Posted by GarmischTiger
Humboldt County
Member since Mar 2007
6609 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:11 am to
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You'd think people that claim to be following football for so long would quit being enough of a dumbfrick to utilize the transitive property as an argument.
You'd think someone trying to make a valid point with words would resort to an intelligent argument and not profane name calling. And you'd think they'd know what the transitive property is.

They beat Bama and Georgia, we didn't. We played them earlier, they played them later. Show me exactly what part of the transitive property is in use there that supports my argument.

Dumbfrick, indeed.
Posted by GarmischTiger
Humboldt County
Member since Mar 2007
6609 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:14 am to
quote:

I apologize if I ruffled any feathers. That's not what I intend to do on here at all.
We good. Others are ripping my feathers off!
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65944 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:17 am to
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Auburn would've destroyed us later in the season. They progressed throughout the season, LSU regressed.


the same auburn team that barely beat a&m late in the season.. that we crushed both teams.

dude we shut auburn down and would do it again. why is that so hard to understand? and we ran ALL over auburn.. and would run ALL over them again. all it takes is a few stops.. see the auburn missouri game.. mizz couldn't get those few stops. LSU absolutely would. people completely dismiss the a&m game late in the season.. and last i checked. LSU still won the arkansas game.. regardless how flat they were.
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
65101 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:17 am to
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They beat Bama and Georgia, we didn't. We played them earlier, they played them later. Show me exactly what part of the transitive property is in use there that supports my argument.


You want to cite how Auburn played better than LSU did down the stretch, but Auburn's and LSU's games against UGA could've easily went the other way. Are you really trying to say beating UGA later in the year is more impressive than when LSU had to face them? Not even a week after Auburn needed a lucky deflection to beat them, LSU trounces A&M. I'm really not sure why you use this to validate that Auburn would've ran LSU out of the building if they played later in the season.

I'll give you the Iron Bowl and LSU's unnecessary close game over Arkansas, but that's football. Different weeks, different teams. It's not complicated.
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 1:21 am
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68593 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:26 am to
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ou want to cite how Auburn played better than LSU did down the stretch, but Auburn's and LSU's games against UGA could've easily went the other way.


Luck. We could easily be in their position if the ball bounced or got tipped our way. Again our program isnt in decline. they are a couple of plays away from being considered the best program again. Ill tell you what we didnt do in our wins against tamu and auburn, we didnt turn the ball over in costly situations or when we are about to take the lead.

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66492 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:40 am to
I think we beat them again. They are a bit overrated. They needed a miracle to beat a hamstrung UGA.

They beat Bama, but i think you have to give credit to rivalry games.
Posted by trom83
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2013
4724 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:40 am to
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they are a couple of plays away from being considered the best program again


Did we see the same defense? That defense played like shite throughout the entire season.
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 1:41 am
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68593 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:49 am to
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Did we see the same defense? That defense played like shite throughout the entire season.


Remind me who had a dominating defense other than fsu this year? Did you watch the seccg? did you watch auburn play d against hill? Did you watch bama play d against mason or manziel?

That's what i thought. One stop against uga and we win, throw one less pick against ole miss, we win. Go up 14-0 against bama, we win. Yeah our defense sucked, but not enough compared to other schools. Could also be that the Sec just had some good qbs around the league this season.

Again ill point to the seccg, the supposedly two best teams went on a scoring fest. 2 years ago the two best teams couldnt punch it in the endzone when they played in the regular season.
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 1:54 am
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