re: Tigers will be in the top half of the SEC with a win against Kentucky tomorrow night

It’s kind of sad when most of our fans are fair weather fans who always take the opportunity to $h@t on our coaches and players.

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Nobody is actively rooting against him, it’s called accountability. Build a team that can compete in the top of the SEC or GTFO! It’s that simple, and we shouldn’t cheer on mediocrity.

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That's not true. I called a poster out about him actively rooting for LSU to lose games earlier this year and his response was "It’s for the betterment of the program. Get mcloser out of here asap so we can move on."

Did you see what Kentucky did to Auburn in Auburn last week? Kentucky is really really playing good right now. The line is 7.5 and I think should be 10-12. Pray for a win but don’t expect it. LSU has a long way to go.

Sounds like your anger is misguided and should be more at the Athletic department for letting the NCAA investigate when they easily could have taken the other approach.

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While it’s true you can turnover a roster in 1 year, that’s not a model of consistency. McMahon is laying groundwork for a sustainable program that will be consistent year in and year out without having to rebuild in the portal every year. Reloading your whole team through the portal doesn’t guarantee you shite, see: Arkansas this year

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That sounds good in theory. But it may not be feasible in practice. McMahon signed 4 guys in his first class at LSU. Two left after one season. Now, the other signees, Ward, Reed, Williams have played key minutes this season and (presumably) Chest is ok with a redshirt, but I don't think any coach can be assured his players will return. That's just the nature of the sport now. There are guys, every year, who are key players on a team to transfer to another. Hell, just look at Jordan Wright. He was a 4 year player at Vandy who was likely in line to be one of their best players this season. And keep in mind, Vandy finished the season well last year and was in the conversation for a NCAA Tournament spot (some say they were snubbed)...ALL while LSU was the worst team in the SEC. Didn't matter. Wright left for LSU.


Coaches are going to have to rely on the portal year in and year out to rebuild their roster. You're right, that can lead to inconsistent results (see Missouri and South Carolina vs. their teams last season). The key is trying to find the right mix of HS signees, transfers who will stay more than one season, and a few veteran 1 year transfers.

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For the morons there is a difference between CAN and SHOULD be rebuilt in 1 year. You were the same idiots using Mizzou as an example last year.

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The Mizzou example was used ALWAYS as a retort to those who constantly argued that no one could have had success at LSU last season. Or even just finish outside the very bottom of the league. Mizzou's success last season, along with K-State showed it CAN be done.

And I think a lot of sensitive posters felt the others had to high of expectations for McMahon last season. The reality is no one did. Preseason expectations were the lowest they had been since Johnny Jones' final season. No one was expecting a NCAAT birth (even though those who cover college basketball for a living felt LSU could be in the conversation for such in their preseason predictions). The frustration wasn't that LSU didn't achieve the same level of success they had in the 5 years prior. It's that LSU was one of the worst major-conf. teams in the country last year. One that had a nearly school record 14 game losing streak. There is a big difference between not being quite as good as you had been and being truly awful. There's also a big difference between being able to acknowledge the guy did an awful job, but understanding things COULD get better and twisting yourself into a logical pretzel to absolve the coach from ANY criticism.

At this point in the season it is clear the program is improved from last year. "Improved" doesn't necessarily mean "good". Improved means improved. LSU is still 13-12 (5-7). That's not "good". But they have an opportunity starting today to really build some momentum. LSU fans are no different than any other fans. They want to get behind the team/coach. But the team/coach needs to give them a reason too. Trying to sell close losses and a record just above .500 as "good" isn't it yet. Win tonight over the most recognized "brand" in the SEC and more fans will start to take notice. Follow that up with a good finish against a favorable schedule and more will continue to take notice. But it is silly to constantly try to gaslight fans who don't have any confidence in McMahon yet...because he hasn't given them much reason for confidence.

We have more Quad 1 wins that Alabama and Auburn at 3. They are at 2 apiece. If we can win tonight, that gives this team a lot of confidence heading into remaining, all very winnable games. Look out now.

But can they handle the Deaf Dome?

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Come the frick on bro. You don’t need multiple years to turnover a basketball roster like football. 1 year is all it takes to turnover a basketball team. This IS what our program is going to be.

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Show me the long list of recent coaching hires that took a program from rock bottom (yes, that’s where we were after Wade was fired) into a tourney team in two years.

Oats is the closest one I can find but he took over a functional albeit below average program.