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Tie breakers in SEC men's Basketball?
Posted on 3/4/14 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 3/4/14 at 9:05 pm
I'm pretty sure I asked about this last year, but............
We have 4 teams currently sitting at 8-8, including LSU.
There is the potential of course, that there could be even more of a log jam depending on results for the last 2 games.
I know that the first thing to settle a tiebreaker is looking at the win-loss records of the tied teams against each other. But what next?
If things stay the same as currently, LSU & A&M are tied 8-8, and also tied 1-1 on wins-losses.
Is it season's (NC) wins total that's the next tiebreaker? Would seem right to me. Although for and against scoring might be it?
I'm pretty sure we were in a very similar situation last year (disappointing) and I hate to have part of our future decided at this point by what other teams do in their last games, as much as what we do.
Whether or not we put ourselves in this situation is not really part of this discussion - it's obvious that we did.
I was hoping we could be 6th or 7th so we go on the non-Florida side of the bracket. As far as I can tell, we don't want to be the 8th or 9th seed, because the winner of that match-up will face Florida in their 2nd game.
We have 4 teams currently sitting at 8-8, including LSU.
There is the potential of course, that there could be even more of a log jam depending on results for the last 2 games.
I know that the first thing to settle a tiebreaker is looking at the win-loss records of the tied teams against each other. But what next?
If things stay the same as currently, LSU & A&M are tied 8-8, and also tied 1-1 on wins-losses.
Is it season's (NC) wins total that's the next tiebreaker? Would seem right to me. Although for and against scoring might be it?
I'm pretty sure we were in a very similar situation last year (disappointing) and I hate to have part of our future decided at this point by what other teams do in their last games, as much as what we do.
Whether or not we put ourselves in this situation is not really part of this discussion - it's obvious that we did.
I was hoping we could be 6th or 7th so we go on the non-Florida side of the bracket. As far as I can tell, we don't want to be the 8th or 9th seed, because the winner of that match-up will face Florida in their 2nd game.
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 9:13 pm to Britgirl
After head to head, it's record against the #1, #2 team and so on until the tie is broken
Posted on 3/5/14 at 12:17 am to TigerCub
quote:This would not work as some teams played Florida once and others twice and so on.
After head to head, it's record against the #1, #2 team and so on until the tie is broken
Most likely if multiple teams tied it would be combined record vs others in the tied group.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 6:37 am to tigersbb
Here's your tiebreaker answers straight from the SEC office.
SEC Basketball Tourney Seeding Tiebreakers
When three or more teams are tied, the following procedure will be used
in the following order until the tie is broken. If two teams remain tied after a tiebreaker provision, the
two-team tiebreaker formula will be used.
A. Best winning percentage of games played among the tied teams (Example: Team A is 3-1, Team
B is 2-2 and Team C is 1-3 - - Team A would be seeded highest, Team B second-highest and
Team C lowest of the three).
B. Best winning percentage of the tied teams versus the No. 1 seed (and proceeding through the
No. 12 seed, if necessary).
C. If two teams remain, coin flip by the Commissioner.
D. If three or more teams remain, draw by the Commissioner.
SEC Basketball Tourney Seeding Tiebreakers
When three or more teams are tied, the following procedure will be used
in the following order until the tie is broken. If two teams remain tied after a tiebreaker provision, the
two-team tiebreaker formula will be used.
A. Best winning percentage of games played among the tied teams (Example: Team A is 3-1, Team
B is 2-2 and Team C is 1-3 - - Team A would be seeded highest, Team B second-highest and
Team C lowest of the three).
B. Best winning percentage of the tied teams versus the No. 1 seed (and proceeding through the
No. 12 seed, if necessary).
C. If two teams remain, coin flip by the Commissioner.
D. If three or more teams remain, draw by the Commissioner.
This post was edited on 3/5/14 at 6:39 am
Posted on 3/5/14 at 6:43 am to LSUGoose
Posted on 3/5/14 at 9:57 am to LSUGoose
Thanks everyone.
I didn't look at the SEC rant, so didn't see the thread on the bracket projection as at today.
As we know, LSU has dug themselves into a hole and now find themselves 8-8 in a 4 way tie.
I hope they come out fighting for the last 2 games.
I hope I've got this right:
IF we win both we're at 10-8.
If the others go 1-1, which is possible given their match-ups, they'll all be 9-9.
We're not playing any of them - good.
Hopefully, all those IF's play out as above, because that gives us the 6th seed, and away from Florida!
However, Vandy is lurking at 7-9 (and here is a very big IF) they beat both us and Ole Miss, then Ole Miss would become 8-9, whilst LSU would be 9-9 (assuming we beat Georgia).
By losing to Vandy, Ole Miss would likely be 8-10 since their last game is @ Arky.
So many IF's. This is pure conjecture on my part and might be considered a waste of time by some
But I think it's fun to speculate. And hope for the best.
I didn't look at the SEC rant, so didn't see the thread on the bracket projection as at today.
As we know, LSU has dug themselves into a hole and now find themselves 8-8 in a 4 way tie.
I hope they come out fighting for the last 2 games.
I hope I've got this right:
IF we win both we're at 10-8.
If the others go 1-1, which is possible given their match-ups, they'll all be 9-9.
We're not playing any of them - good.
Hopefully, all those IF's play out as above, because that gives us the 6th seed, and away from Florida!
However, Vandy is lurking at 7-9 (and here is a very big IF) they beat both us and Ole Miss, then Ole Miss would become 8-9, whilst LSU would be 9-9 (assuming we beat Georgia).
By losing to Vandy, Ole Miss would likely be 8-10 since their last game is @ Arky.
So many IF's. This is pure conjecture on my part and might be considered a waste of time by some
But I think it's fun to speculate. And hope for the best.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 10:11 am to LSUGoose
That would be about as bad a draw as we could get.
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