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This calling people "racist" needs to stop...
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:05 pm
I don't post much, because usually many posters have already pretty much posted everything there is to post before I get a chance to read the board. But over the past few days, I have seen the "racist" moniker being thrown at a lot of posters, so I'll speak my piece.
In this case, it doesn't take "racists" to know which QB DID NOT get in a bar fight after breaking curfew. By the same token, it doesn't take "racists" to know which QB HAS been charged by a grand jury (not just by the police), with misdemeanor assault. All it takes is someone who can read, or see, or hear.
And it doesn't take a "racist" to be sorely disappointed in an LSU player's response to all the trouble caused, directly or indirectly, by himself. I believe JJ's "not my fault" attitude, his refusal to accept any kind of blame for what the university has suffered,is wrong.
I don't mean I expect JJ to admit any guilt in the assault charge; it is likely a jury will find him not guilty. I will even grant that a four-game suspension and loss of the starting job, with a trial and civil suit still to come, is pretty stiff punishment already.
But I wish JJ had showed the grace and class to embrace his individual responsibility (even if others were responsible also) and forge a new path for himself and the team. Maybe if he, just once, quietly and sincerely said something like: "I really should not have been there; I should not have been involved; and I will make sure it doesn't happen again to me or the team", it would be easier to accept him as a team player. I know that just about everybody I've talked to, and in my business that's a lot, would then have been okay with the way this has played out.
Anyway, as to the "racist' thing, it has been my sad experience that quite often the real "racists" are those who always bring up the race card when they can't fight any other way. Unfortunately, it appears this is true again in this case, for it wasn't "race" which got involved in the Shady's fiasco. It was JJ.
Anyway, for all you dogmatic JJ apologists, you can't have it both ways. Don't brand people with the derogatory and racist "redneck" out of one side of your mouth, and accuse someone else of being "racist" with the other. It really makes your mouth look funny.
In this case, it doesn't take "racists" to know which QB DID NOT get in a bar fight after breaking curfew. By the same token, it doesn't take "racists" to know which QB HAS been charged by a grand jury (not just by the police), with misdemeanor assault. All it takes is someone who can read, or see, or hear.
And it doesn't take a "racist" to be sorely disappointed in an LSU player's response to all the trouble caused, directly or indirectly, by himself. I believe JJ's "not my fault" attitude, his refusal to accept any kind of blame for what the university has suffered,is wrong.
I don't mean I expect JJ to admit any guilt in the assault charge; it is likely a jury will find him not guilty. I will even grant that a four-game suspension and loss of the starting job, with a trial and civil suit still to come, is pretty stiff punishment already.
But I wish JJ had showed the grace and class to embrace his individual responsibility (even if others were responsible also) and forge a new path for himself and the team. Maybe if he, just once, quietly and sincerely said something like: "I really should not have been there; I should not have been involved; and I will make sure it doesn't happen again to me or the team", it would be easier to accept him as a team player. I know that just about everybody I've talked to, and in my business that's a lot, would then have been okay with the way this has played out.
Anyway, as to the "racist' thing, it has been my sad experience that quite often the real "racists" are those who always bring up the race card when they can't fight any other way. Unfortunately, it appears this is true again in this case, for it wasn't "race" which got involved in the Shady's fiasco. It was JJ.
Anyway, for all you dogmatic JJ apologists, you can't have it both ways. Don't brand people with the derogatory and racist "redneck" out of one side of your mouth, and accuse someone else of being "racist" with the other. It really makes your mouth look funny.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:05 pm to BestYearsofMyLife
+.76
This post was edited on 10/3/11 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:06 pm to BestYearsofMyLife
quote:That is exactly what I would expect a racist to say. . .
This calling people "racist" needs to stop...
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:07 pm to BestYearsofMyLife
this sounds like the same argument that was brought up during the Davey/Booty era....
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:08 pm to BestYearsofMyLife
quote:
BestYearsofMyLife
are behind you. Keep with the not posting.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:09 pm to BestYearsofMyLife
Thank god somebody said it
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:09 pm to BestYearsofMyLife
Also, just look at the cmoments section of any local paper's story about the quarterbacks. The amount of "code words" you see in there is proof enough that race is indeed a major factor in this "discussion".
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:09 pm to BestYearsofMyLife
i bet some of your best friends are black
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:10 pm to BigAppleTiger
Not likely to quit posting just to keep you from having to think. BTW, Big Apple sounds Yankee to me...wait, is that racist too?
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:11 pm to bradwieser
quote:
i bet some of your best friends are black
I don't know, I never really noticed
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:13 pm to BestYearsofMyLife
Its 2011 not 1960....I would rather have Lee as QB than Jefferson and its not because of skin color...grow up people
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:15 pm to BestYearsofMyLife
you've never even noticed if your friends are black or not?!
How far are you going to take this blind attitude? ever notice if your friends are female or male? how bout your wife?
How far are you going to take this blind attitude? ever notice if your friends are female or male? how bout your wife?
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:16 pm to BestYearsofMyLife
not racist, but ignorance and racism are not mutually exclusive to each other.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:16 pm to bradwieser
quote:Dude, just stop.
bradwieser
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:17 pm to bradwieser
quote:
ever notice if your friends are female or male? how bout your wife?
EDIT: Never said I wasn't sexist.
This post was edited on 10/3/11 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:19 pm to RagingStiff
quote:
RagingStiff
quote:
Russell/Flynn
I heard the Booty/Nail/Davey era was much worse and it actually was a race issue.
Nevertheless, to completely throw out the idea of race not being the issue is pretty stupid imho. If you listened to the Les Miles show & After show you definitely got an ear full of the ignorant & close minded folks who call themselves LSU fans.
This post was edited on 10/3/11 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:38 pm to BestYearsofMyLife
you are right. No one probably even notices that Jefferson is black.
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