The SEC West going forward: ETA: TAMU; coach O hire could be ok

To win the West, you have to beat Bama. We did not make a hire to do that.

Just because other schools are being shitty, that doesnt make our shitty hire less shitty

if O can recruit the linemen on both sides of the ball and LB's we will compete with Alabama.

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Auburn - kind of wildcard but overall sideways and down.

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no

so, we made the right move in the race for #2?

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if O can recruit the linemen on both sides of the ball and LB's we will compete with Alabama.

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This is the key here. I think we have seen vast improvement in the defensive line since Coach O has been here. This guy knows football and has coached under some seriously great coaches. He knows we have to get better along the offensive and defensive front.

I really don't see why so many are blowing a gasket on Coach O getting the job. It was always a known fact that if we didn't land Jimbo or Herman that Coach O would get the job.

Jimbo is not worth 10 years 80 million, that's insane and Herman has not earned 6-6.5 mil.

Another point.....If the committee allows OSU in this year without a conference championship, you can bet a 1 loss SEC team, with that 1 loss to probable #1 Bama, will always get top 4 consideration.....

Just something to think about

This is what is called embracing mediocrity.

"we know we're not as good as we can be, but hey, alot of the other places are pretty bad too, so we might have a chance."

What is funny is all of the talk about "We did not hire somebody that can beat Bama"

Since Saban's 2nd season with Bama he is 96-12

He has lost to : Urban Myer 2x, Les Miles 2x, Gus Malzahn 2x and Hugh Freeze 2x

The other 4 loses are to: Kyle Whittingham, Kevin Sumlin, Bob Toops and Steve Spurrier

Not a long list if you consider that only 8 Coaches have beaten Saban since his 2nd year at Bama

FYI his 1st year at Bama he was 7-6

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No one in the game is even close to him right now in any facet and I'm not sure why that's the standard of our hires. It's unattainable. It's like saying that your company's CEO should be hired based on his ability to out-market and advertise Apple's CEO Tim Cook. Beating Bama consistently ain't happening for anyone right now, I'm tired of seeing this ridiculous shite in every thread

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And I'm tired of seeing this ridiculous line of thinking. Assuming LSU's ultimate goal as a football program is to win, at minimum, SEC titles, then you HAVE to use Bama as the standard for any coaching, recruiting, etc. decision you make. Simply put, you can't reach your ultimate goals without beating them. Now of course, that's much easier said than done, but if you aren't making decisions in terms of "what can we do to beat these guys", then you are saying you're happy being second-best.

You act like LSU is miles away from competing with Alabama. They aren't. LSU produces as much NFL talent as Alabama. LSU easily could have won the 2012 and 2014 games with just a slightly more aggressive approach on offense or on final stop on defense. I think we would all agree that outside of maybe 2013, LSU's overall offensive approach has been terrible. Yet, they have generally stood toe to toe with Bama, including this season. Is it that unrealistic to think that with just a slightly different approach on offense, things could be different?

It would be one thing to wave the white flag if LSU was Miss. St. and just couldn't get the same caliber of players as Bama on a consistent basis. That's not the case. While the results of recent years have been one-sided, you can bet that Saban still recognizes LSU as a threat. Otherwise, he wouldn't make sure he has a bye before that game each year.

If LSU doesn't really care about being a national championship caliber program, then fine. But if they do (and I hope they do) then Bama IS the standard bearer you need to best

Saban is old. He can't have more than 2 or 3 years left in him. He has to be tired.

All we have to do is be patient for a couple of years and we could move to the top.