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The remaining games that affect LSU getting the 4th Seed in the SEC Tourney

Posted on 2/16/12 at 2:55 am
Posted by McManus
Member since Sep 2011
38 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 2:55 am
Kentucky, Florida, & Vanderbilt are the Top 3 seeds.

The next 6 teams are currently within 1 game of claiming the 4th seed.

Miss State 6-5
Tennessee 6-5
Ole Miss 5-5
Arkansas 5-6
Alabama 5-6
LSU 5-6

Remaining Game Assumptions:

1. These 6 teams all lose against the Top 3 teams, Kentucky, Florida, or Vanderbilt, home or away.
2. These 6 teams all win against the Bottom 3 teams, Auburn, Georgia, or South Carolina, home or away.
3. The home team wins every game between these 6 teams, except LSU at Ole Miss.

Miss State 6-5 (Potential 9-7)
at Auburn (Win)
Kentucky (Loss)
at Alabama (Loss)
at South Carolina (Win)
Arkansas (Win)

Tennessee 6-5 (Potential 8-8)
at Alabama (Loss)
Ole Miss (Win)
at South Carolina (Win)
at LSU (Loss)
Vanderbilt (Loss)

Ole Miss 5-5 (Potential 6-10)
Vanderbilt (Loss)
at Kentucky (Loss)
at Tennessee (Loss)
LSU (Loss)
at Arkansas (Loss)
Alabama (Win)

Arkansas 5-6 (Potential 8-8)
Florida (Loss)
Alabama (Win)
at Auburn (Win)
Ole Miss (Win)
at Miss State (Loss)

Alabama 5-6 (Potential 8-8)
Tennessee (Win)
at Arkansas (Loss)
Miss State (Win)
Auburn (Win)
at Ole Miss (Loss)

LSU 5-6 (Potential 10-6)
at South Carolina (Win)
Georgia (Win)
at Ole Miss (Win)
Tennessee (Win)
at Auburn (Win)

Of the remaining 6 teams that could get the 4th seed, LSU has the most favorable schedule.
Posted by RIPMachoMan
Member since Jun 2011
5943 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 3:37 am to
quote:

LSU 5-6 (Potential 10-6)
at South Carolina (Win)
Georgia (Win)
at Ole Miss (Win)
Tennessee (Win)
at Auburn (Win)



i like the optimism
Posted by tigahfromtheham
On your left
Member since Jun 2005
5800 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 6:09 am to
Would be nice.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77385 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 6:50 am to
Why is vandy not included in this breakdown
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22376 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 7:48 am to
quote:

3. The home team wins every game between these 6 teams, except LSU at Ole Miss.


Why of course, how'd you come to that assumption I wonder?

Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 7:54 am to
quote:

Why is vandy not included in this breakdown


Yeah, considering they are 6 and 4 with games against UK and UF left of their 6 remaining they can be passed in this scenario
Posted by lsufan251875
Member since Jul 2008
3159 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 8:28 am to
It would be much more beneficial if LSU could somehow win out and get the 5 or 6 seed. We likely need 2 wins in the SECT, and as the 4, we'd likely face the 5-seed then Kentucky.

As the 5, we'd play a bad USC team, then the 4, then Kentucky.

As the 6, it would be the 11 (UGA or AU), then UF/Vandy.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22376 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 8:32 am to
quote:

It would be much more beneficial if LSU could somehow win out and get the 5 or 6 seed.


This guy gets it.

Unless this thread is figuring out the best way for LSU to actually win the whole thing, the best thing LSU could do is win as many games in the tournament as possible to have any NCAA hopes. It wouldn't do much for the RPI, but LSU would need every win possible to have any kind of shot and the best way to do that would be to play some bad team on the first day.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 8:51 am to
quote:

LSU getting the 4th Seed in the SEC Tourney


The 4th seed would be the worst seed to have, other than maybe an 8th. As a #4 we would play one game against the #5/#12 winner, then have to play Kentucky in the semis. A #6 seed would be ideal. We would play #11, then #3 and #2 before meeting UK in the final (assuming we got that far). That would give us a realistic chance at 2 or 3 SECT wins. Even a #5 seed would be better than #4, as we would at least get to play two games (#12 and #4) before losing to UK. I guess #8 would be the worst, since we'd only play #9 and then lose to Kentucky in the quarterfinal.
Posted by Bobby Moore
Red Hill, Mississippi
Member since Jun 2005
17751 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 10:34 am to
quote:

LSU 5-6 (Potential 10-6)
at South Carolina (Win)
Georgia (Win)
at Ole Miss (Win)
Tennessee (Win)
at Auburn (Win)


Your pick is unreal.....LSU will not win a road game. Only a few do in the SEC.......take away 3 wins....7-9

They will not beat Tenn.......6-10
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

LSU will not win a road game
south Carolina is pretty terrible and auburn isn't that great. We should win both of those.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 12:54 pm to
Though having the 4th seed may mean only getting a possible 1 win, you still make the semi's and it gives you the 4th best record in the SE which the NCAA committee will look at much favorably than being 5th.

They will look from the top down and being at 4th will give us a better chance than being 5th or 6th. Our body of work isn't incredible, so we need to have the standings on our side. Its not just about winning 2 games in the SEC tournament.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22376 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

the 4th best record in the SE which the NCAA committee will look at much favorably than being 5th.

They will look from the top down and being at 4th will give us a better chance than being 5th or 6th.


What an absolute fail. The committee probably doesn't even have a sheet of conference standings to look at while they deliberate.
Posted by lwlsu96
Member since Oct 2011
5404 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

What an absolute fail. The committee probably doesn't even have a sheet of conference standings to look at while they deliberate.



You are fricking retarded.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

we need to have the standings on our side


NCAA selection committee doesn't care about conference standing. It's not unusual for a team in a conference to receive an at-large invitation while another team that finished ahead of that team in the same conference doesn't get one. The committee regards all games the same (with some exceptions relating to when the game was played, where, etc.), regardless of whether they are conference games or not.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

What an absolute fail. The committee probably doesn't even have a sheet of conference standings to look at while they deliberate.
Seriously?
Posted by beary25
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
1086 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

Your pick is unreal.....LSU will not win a road game. Only a few do in the SEC.......take away 3 wins....7-9


Have you even watched any of these other teams play? USC and Auburn aren't very good and Tenn hasn't played well on the road minus the Florida game. It's a long shot but to say it's unreal, don't know if i agree.
Posted by F1V3LSU
Alex Padilla 2016
Member since Dec 2011
3053 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 1:31 pm to
You were one of my favorite tigers Josh
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164116 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 1:32 pm to
frick the 4th seed. We have a shot at the 3 seed.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 2/16/12 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

What an absolute fail. The committee probably doesn't even have a sheet of conference standings to look at while they deliberate.


I certainly dont want to point fingers or fight, but if you honestly dont think they try and get a certain number of teams from a specific conference or look at who has the best record in conference I think you may be mistaken.

Its not an exact science, but the people involved obviously look at a lot of factors. I for one believe that they do look at where you finish in your conference. It is not a final word type of thing, but obviously it's a help.
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