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The Real Reason for BBall Shortcomings

Posted on 2/18/16 at 4:43 pm
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 4:43 pm
I have read all day about every theory on why we are underachieving and it really boils down to one thing.

FREE THROWS.

When we make our free throws, we win close games (a la aTm). When we miss free throws, we lose close games like last night.

Its as simple as that. It has been the Achilles heal of our program for a few years now and has cost us more than a few games including last years tournament game against NC State.

I'm still gonna cheer the team on in every game and hope we win enough to go dancing.
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 4:44 pm
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67940 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 4:45 pm to
Meh. Coaching still needs to be much improved. Even if we do make free throws.
Posted by UnfinishedSentenc
Member since Dec 2015
163 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 4:45 pm to
I mean I saw Patterson Quarterman and Blakeny miss like 6-8 open 3's
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
8977 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

I mean I saw Patterson Quarterman and Blakeny miss like 6-8 open 3's

Not saying that isn't a problem but it wouldn't have mattered last night if we make our free throws.

if ben and company don't miss 10+ from the line, we win.
Posted by camplsu
Section 210
Member since Feb 2007
1527 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 4:52 pm to
LINK

This thread didn't get the point across?
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14874 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 4:53 pm to
free throws are not solely the player responsibility. When they are inconsistent it is the responsibility of the coach to ensure players are practicing enough and shooting with proper mechanics

This guy knows

and he played at LSU! give him a call
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
8977 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

free throws are not solely the player responsibility. When they are inconsistent it is the responsibility of the coach to ensure players are practicing enough and shooting with proper mechanics


Not saying coaching isn't to blame for the problem, just saying a lot of our issues could be masked if we could just make our free throws.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28384 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 4:58 pm to
The lack of FT shooting certainly doesn't help, but if you want to find LSU's Achilles heel look no farther than these numbers:

Kenpom efficiency ratings:

Adjusted Offensive efficiency national rank: 27 of 351 (2nd in SEC)
Adjusted Defensive efficiency national rank: 135 of 351 (11th in the SEC only ahead of Auburn, Mizzou and Tenn.)

There are going to be nights where the ball just doesn't go down on offense. Last night was one of those nights. However, you can overcome those nights and grind out wins if you can keep the opponent from scoring. LSU can't. If this team was even just marginally better on defense, they find a way to win the game last night (even with the FT woes). If you are horrible on defense though (and LSU is) you rarely can afford to have a bad night on offense
Posted by toothfxr92
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2007
322 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 5:34 pm to
No Swag on this squad
Posted by ROUSTER
Member since Sep 2003
6886 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 5:34 pm to
Alt, you hit on it in the other thread, this team plays gambling D. Looks good when it works. But more times than naught it leads to easy layups or wide open looks.
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9039 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 5:43 pm to
quote:

The Real Reason for BBall Shortcomings

High expectations that we were going to have 3 super star incoming freshmen and one of them was Lebron James. Well, you can barely even notice 2 of them on the basketball floor and the other only cares about how many rebounds and assists he will have.
Posted by No Diggity Tiger
Member since Apr 2013
152 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 5:44 pm to
The Real Reason is Help Defense. Last year our guards were allowed to let in dribble penetration because they knew they had a shot blocker, Jordan Mickey, there to impact the shot. This year we allow way too much dribble penetration and are horrendous at help defense. Victor nor Simmons take pride in their help defense and clearly don't want to pick up fouls in quick-whistle college basketball times...Frankly, I don't blame them either because some of the fouls called are just terrible

Some nights, as someone already said, the offense just won't be clicking...Look at Bama's last 6 games as a perfect example . Yet, they are winning because of defense
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 5:45 pm
Posted by 1234567k
Baton rouge
Member since Nov 2015
2067 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 5:53 pm to
Agree completely

there are always talented teams that under perform. Esp when they are young. Does anyone think this team would not dominate next yr if everyone returned.
Posted by JW6
Member since Jul 2013
1572 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 6:21 pm to
Real reason the shortcomings of the reason are protection of the rim.
Was explained this today by a basketball wizard. Mickey last year was unreal around the goal. People wouldn't put shots up.
This year Simmons and victor are not 5 centers who protect the basket. Just not who they are. And are guards get beat more often then not but were bailed out by Mickey last year.
As much I called him out 2nd half of last year, switch him and victor and this team is a lot better.
Offense isn't the problem. We score more than any sec team. It's defense.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56556 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 6:29 pm to
quote:

FREE THROWS.



It's an issue obviously.

But, the real issue is that this team can't defend the drive.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34787 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 6:41 pm to
Sure free throws are a problem but you didn't watch the game last night if you think that's the only reason we lost.
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 6:43 pm
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14874 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 11:17 am to
quote:

his team can't defend the drive.


And this is very basic basketball- fundamental

we give up the base line and the lane

We run down the court with our backs to the ball and the opponent drives right by us.

It is getting very hard to defend a coach who thinks it is all about run and gun and very little D
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95505 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 11:22 am to
The real reason is coaching. We have an extremely athletic team, yet we are 14/14 in the SEC for points allowed. That is freaking pathetic coaching right there
Posted by chipdouglas96
C-Town
Member since Jun 2011
895 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 11:32 am to
to have the athletes we have and we are last in D is just piss poor effort and coaching.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17800 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 11:43 am to
quote:

Its as simple as that


As stated in about 47 other threads before this one, no it isn't. Ask any player or any coach, including Johnny-whether you like him or not-and they'll tell you the same. It's never that simple.
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