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The Offense Scheme Is The Issue

Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:25 am
Posted by lsukingcfb1
Member since Jun 2018
294 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:25 am
We have ELITE talent at WR and a dynamic QB on his feet, and yet we are trying to implement this dam pro-style offense with a freshman TE (I think he will be good, but not right now) instead of spreading them out 5-wide! Roll the dam QB out and let him *Russell Wilson voice* "RUN OR PASS"!!

It's the stubborn my way or the highway offense we struggled through for 10+ years with Les. Please BK, hire a young relevant offensive staff that can run the spread and let them run it!!
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10234 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:27 am to
Maybe; it’s not Les Miles bad but could be better, hard to tell when you can’t block ‘em.
This post was edited on 10/9/22 at 10:27 am
Posted by Cooterlane
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2022
1409 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:27 am to
Run a screen!!!!!!
Posted by LSUFootballFANATIC
Way Up North
Member since Feb 2008
1026 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:30 am to
Throw the bank at Garrett Riley.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29267 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:31 am to
It’s a bad scheme for sure. Long pass plays with a qb who won’t throw downfield.

It’s a terrible combination.
Posted by dmatt2021
South LA
Member since Aug 2021
1515 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:31 am to
I don’t think the scheme is 100 percent to blame I think if we had a QB who could read a defense,understand when he is about to get blitzed an what to do with the ball if they are blitzing, and wasn’t scared to throw it that the offense would look a lot different. I think they will recruit an find a QB who can run the offense but currently they just need to do simple stuff because we have a 1 read QB so run the short passing game plays and don’t get cute
This post was edited on 10/9/22 at 11:17 am
Posted by Coater
Madison, MS
Member since Jun 2005
33065 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:32 am to
I loved not only the up-tempo aspect of tenn’s O but also their formations. Reminded me of how Brady would find mismatches. Ball was out in just a couple seconds
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72820 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:32 am to
ahhh yes you were one of the posters who called for a new OC each year under miles huh? when miles was the issue and the common denominator right?

Posted by lsukingcfb1
Member since Jun 2018
294 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:34 am to
No, no I did not. But thanks for assuming, dumbass!
Posted by Chinese Bandit Boy
Member since Jun 2021
541 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:51 am to
I don’t think roll out passing is the answer. It’s been my impression that JD always throws long when running to his right. He has to set before his passes have any chance of being close to target. Thats why Nuss is not the answer. He is strictly a step back and set qb.

I disagree with JD trying to pass more. He was brought in to be a running qb and that’s what he needs to do if he doesn’t feel comfortable making a pass after his read.

Actually, the threat of a running quarterback would probably allow more single coverage to let receivers fight for ball.

I noticed Saturday that there was usually a short and long receiver on the same trajectory line giving JD an option to throw to one or the other. This is probably a good scheme for him but he needs to have a predetermined running lane if both receivers are covered.
This post was edited on 10/9/22 at 10:55 am
Posted by p_charpie
downdahbaya
Member since May 2017
210 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:59 am to
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This post was edited on 10/9/22 at 11:03 am
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56377 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:13 am to
quote:

have ELITE talent at WR and a dynamic QB on his feet, and yet we are trying to implement this dam pro-style offense with a freshman TE (I think he will be good, but not right now) instead of spreading them out 5-wide! Roll the dam QB out and let him *Russell Wilson voice* "RUN OR PASS"!!
we are asking Daniels to do the one thing he can’t do. I give up. This is peak Cam Cameron
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
15825 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:14 am to
It’s really not the problem. We have a QB who doesn’t take downfield chances.
Posted by how333
Member since Dec 2020
2582 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:16 am to
I’ve said it’s the scheme for weeks. We have the most predictable and worst offense in the SEC.
Posted by bayouboo
Member since Jan 2007
2223 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:20 am to
Anyone who watched the bama a&m game yesterday can see our scheme needs to be updated. Both teams had 1st year QBs with issues and the schemes were far more advanced than we run.

Bama ran some RPO, pistol, stretch runs, no TE, one TE. The O is far more advanced than what we run and with a backup QB that isn’t accurate throwing.
Posted by dljtigers
Sulphur, LA
Member since Feb 2012
1822 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:22 am to
EXACTLY why the hell are we not rolling Daniels out. You sir see the obvious.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
14188 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:32 am to
quote:

We have ELITE talent at WR and a dynamic QB on his feet, and yet we are trying to implement this dam pro-style offense with a freshman TE (I think he will be good, but not right now) instead of spreading them out 5-wide! Roll the dam QB out and let him *Russell Wilson voice* "RUN OR PASS"!!

It's the stubborn my way or the highway offense we struggled through for 10+ years with Les. Please BK, hire a young relevant offensive staff that can run the spread and let them run it!!


I think it's a combination of the scheme and JD's lack of an ability to read a defense or accurately throw more than a 10-yard pass. JD's abilities are built to function in an RPO style offense, but that's not what we're currently running. Denbrock is doing JD no favors by forcing him to operate within a system in which he is obviously uncomfortable and ill equipped for. It's more of the square peg/round hole situation that we suffered through for years with Les Miles.

BK is not a stupid man. He's coached football long enough to have forgotten more than the rest of us will ever learn. So, that being the case, why did he go out an get a transfer QB who would not work within the structure of the offense he wants to run? He obviously researched JD enough to know exactly what he was getting. Did he feel that he could develop him into a better passer? If so, it's obvious that it's not working. So, what's the solution? Seems pretty clear to me. Either you change the system to fit the personnel you have, or you change the personnel to fit the system you want to run. Continuing along the path we're currently on will just lead to more failure.
Posted by Dan0fontenot
Youngsville
Member since Sep 2018
519 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:38 am to
You can only “scheme” around the talent you have. Guys we do not have a offensive line. We have a hodgepodge of young guys playing out of position. You can’t put a good scheme around that.
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31158 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:39 am to
Our receivers drop balls and can’t get open when the game is on the line. I don’t think they’re elite by any standards
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
3952 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:41 am to
quote:

don’t think the scheme is 100 percent to blame I think if we had a QB who could read a defense,understand when he is about to get blitzed an what to do with the ball if they are blitzing, and wasn’t scared to throw it that the offense would look a lot different

I’m so tired of this. Daniels and Denbrock were both Kelly decisions. If it’s a bad combination, it’s one our staff consciously decided on.
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