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The Les Miles Clause and impact on all other LSU coaches
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:18 am
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:18 am
Can someone provide some clarity on the Les Miles Clause which was inserted in all of the assistant LSU coaches contracts? If If I heard this correctly if Les Miles is fired then every single coach on LSU's staff whose contract has this clause is automatically terminated from their employment at LSU. The buy-out of up to $25 million includes all of the coaches who will be owed compensation from the termination of the contract.
If this is the case then what the Athletic Department has effectively created Free Agents of every single coach on LSU's staff who has this clause inserted. This means they will be compensated for the termination of their remaining contracts but if LSU wanted to re-hire them then they would also have to enter into another contract.
So I guess my question is based on the information that is out there did this Athletic Department create a Free Agency model so to speak for all of our coaches?
If they did I sure as hell hope they don't try to leverage those payments when resigning these coaches because their isn't anyway on earth they would resign.
If this is the case then what the Athletic Department has effectively created Free Agents of every single coach on LSU's staff who has this clause inserted. This means they will be compensated for the termination of their remaining contracts but if LSU wanted to re-hire them then they would also have to enter into another contract.
So I guess my question is based on the information that is out there did this Athletic Department create a Free Agency model so to speak for all of our coaches?
If they did I sure as hell hope they don't try to leverage those payments when resigning these coaches because their isn't anyway on earth they would resign.
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:19 am to ihometiger
what makes you even think we're terminating les miles?
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:21 am to Chad504boy
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what makes you even think we're terminating les miles?
Some of the folks who weren't around during the Gerry Dinardo/Lou Tepper & Curly Hallman days want Les gone.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:22 am to ihometiger
the clause states that LSU will pay them for only 6 months post Les Miles termination. So they would remain employed for a period of 6 months after Les is let go if that were to happen.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:24 am to vjp819
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the clause states that LSU will pay them for only 6 months post Les Miles termination. So they would remain employed for a period of 6 months after Les is let go if that were to happen.
So this does essentially the same thing then it allows every coach to become a Free Agent with a very minimal 6 month buy-out provision. I anticipate we are going to lose a lot of our top assistant coaches with this type of provision in it.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:24 am to vjp819
This clause is the reason we didn't get a solid DC. That idea was with intent of getting rid of Miles at some point. When we weren't supposed to be very good, that seemed ok. When we were 7-0 with a chance to beat Bama, that decision hurt us. Alleva sort of sabotaged this season.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:26 am to ihometiger
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Some of the folks who weren't around during the Gerry Dinardo/Lou Tepper & Curly Hallman days want Les gone.
a lot of the folks who were around then want him gone too
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:33 am to lsufball19
It might also explain why alot of recruits are now suddenly smitten with Texas A&M, Alabama, and Florida right now too. Don't think for a second those assistant coaches aren't being upfront with the players parents about what their future plans could be in the event they leave LSU.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:37 am to vjp819
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the clause states that LSU will pay them for only 6 months post Les Miles termination. So they would remain employed for a period of 6 months after Les is let go if that were to happen.
I don't think it means employed i think it just means they will be paid for the 6 months. What coach would come coach at a school and has to keep the current staff on for 6 months?
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:39 am to Chad504boy
LOL! Are you involved in this process? Let us know what is going on, I pray you...
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:40 am to White Tiger
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LOL! Are you involved in this process? Let us know what is going on, I pray you...
my humor is above your pay grade.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:41 am to ihometiger
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The buy-out of up to $25 million includes all of the coaches who will be owed compensation from the termination of the contract.
Where did this # come from?
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This means they will be compensated for the termination of their remaining contracts but if LSU wanted to re-hire them then they would also have to enter into another contract.
They get 6 months severance, not their full contract.
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So I guess my question is based on the information that is out there did this Athletic Department create a Free Agency model so to speak for all of our coaches?
The new coach needs to be able to hire his own staff and not be stuck with the likes of Kevin Steele and Bradley Dale Peveto from Miles. On the flip side the asst coaches should be able to decide whether or not they want to work with the new guy. "Free agency" is not a bad thing.
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If they did I sure as hell hope they don't try to leverage those payments when resigning these coaches because their isn't anyway on earth they would resign.
LSU pays the assistant coaches most than just about anyone. If they want to continue to work where they live and get paid top dollar to do so... they will stay. Regardless, it is usually common to only keep 1 or 2 coaches when a new head coach is hired. Head coaches want to bring in their own guys while keeping at most a couple around to help with the transition and recruiting.
ETA: I'm pretty sure the 'Les Miles clause' gives LSU the option to terminate the contract and only pay 6 months severance. In other words, they don't all become free agents automatically. It is up to the new coach.
This post was edited on 11/25/15 at 10:49 am
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:42 am to easy money
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This clause is the reason we didn't get a solid DC. That idea was with intent of getting rid of Miles at some point. When we weren't supposed to be very good, that seemed ok. When we were 7-0 with a chance to beat Bama, that decision hurt us. Alleva sort of sabotaged this season.
I think the fact that a new DC couldn't hire his own position coaches hurt the search more than the Miles clause. Alleva drew a line in the sand for Les. People on this site have asked Alleva to grow a spine and when he does and tells his formerly successful football coach you got to turn this around or you're gone people get upset with him.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:42 am to ihometiger
Another loser mentality raises its empty head. Go back to sleep.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:46 am to Chad504boy
Yes. Yes, of course. Thank you for reminding me...lol.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 12:29 pm to geauxtigers33
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What coach would come coach at a school and has to keep the current staff on for 6 months?
oh they wouldn't be coaching. Joe would have them cutting grass, or trimming hedges or something productive.
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