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re: The culture of college football has changed
Posted on 9/8/14 at 10:02 am to JdbsLSUBR
Posted on 9/8/14 at 10:02 am to JdbsLSUBR
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Heisman posing, excessive celebrating, taunting your opponent during a game, calling-out your opponent before a game, etc. are components of the culture of college football that are never going away. Once upon a time, the consensus would've been that these are examples of poor sportsmanship. Such is no longer the case
signed the 92 Miami hurricanes .
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 10:04 am to wilceaux
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Howard
won it
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Peterson
contender
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Fournette.
5 yard run against Sam Houston.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 10:06 am to JdbsLSUBR
It's a game, it's supposed to be fun.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 10:25 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Either your not old enough to remember much football or you are so old you're senile and forgot. This shite has been around for decades.
No shite. Apparently the OP didn't realize ThugU played in the 80's
Posted on 9/8/14 at 10:34 am to JdbsLSUBR
The truth of course is that cultures can and do change in any number of ways, both good and bad.
In my personal frame of reference, football celebrations at the college level probably peaked over 20 years ago. I found some of it trashy and some of it hilarious. I mean, The U in the late 80's had to be the peak of all that stuff.
To the contrary, most of the stuff I see nowadays is pretty freaking collegial. LSU and The Gumps for instance play in these death matches, but for the most part do it cleanly, and speak well of one another thereafter. Which is pretty remarkable when you think about it.
College football Culture is overwhelmingly positive on the field in my estimation. From time to time the human ego emerges as it has done for millenniums.
In my personal frame of reference, football celebrations at the college level probably peaked over 20 years ago. I found some of it trashy and some of it hilarious. I mean, The U in the late 80's had to be the peak of all that stuff.
To the contrary, most of the stuff I see nowadays is pretty freaking collegial. LSU and The Gumps for instance play in these death matches, but for the most part do it cleanly, and speak well of one another thereafter. Which is pretty remarkable when you think about it.
College football Culture is overwhelmingly positive on the field in my estimation. From time to time the human ego emerges as it has done for millenniums.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 10:36 am to wilceaux
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I know of 3, Howard, Peterson, and Fournette. Who else has done it? Serious question.
I remember Kellen Winslow doing it back in 2003 against La Tech.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 10:38 am to deSandman
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I remember Kellen Winslow doing it back in 2003 against La Tech.
Ah yes, the "soldier".
Posted on 9/8/14 at 10:50 am to wilceaux
Penalizing taunting and excessive celebrations that causes losing a game will leave its mark. A cupcake game is one thing (should still be penalized) but doing it against Alabama when the game is one the line is worthy of BENCHING and repurcussions. (I am not angry but a little old....I don't play X-box. :) )
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:19 pm to wilceaux
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I know of 3, Howard, Peterson, and Fournette. Who else has done it? Serious question.
Tre Mason did it last yr in the SECCG. I don't have an exhaustive list but plenty of ppl have done and it and not garnered much attention at all. Granted, those guys might have been considered more likely heismen contenders.
Anyway, you would have to think someone has done it between Howard and Peterson.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:21 pm to JdbsLSUBR
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Heisman posing, excessive celebrating, taunting your opponent during a game, calling-out your opponent before a game, etc. are components of the culture of college football that are never going away. Once upon a time, the consensus would've been that these are examples of poor sportsmanship. Such is no longer the case.
the only reason there are any celebrating/taunting rules is because of the thugs that were "the U," do you even '80's bro?
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:22 pm to JdbsLSUBR
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:24 pm to JdbsLSUBR
If the culture has changed to what it is today. Heisman posing, taunting, etc. Who's to say it won't change again?
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:25 pm to JdbsLSUBR
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The culture of college football has changed
Not as badly as the overall culture has changed.
Are you a baby boomer? If so, it's your fault.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:32 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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This is inscribed on a 6000 year old Egyptian Tomb:
Exactly. I remember an old "Rest of the Story" by Paul Harvey on the radio. He read a long spiel from someone about how kids today were not responsible, culture was taking a dive, etc. etc. The reveal at the end was that it was written by someone from ancient Greece over 2000 years ago.
For the OP: Read up on some of the stuff that players used to do a couple of decades ago. Read something like Junction Boys where the players would trash bars and Bryant had to send bags of cash to the bar owners to pay for the repairs. And the players would put cherry bombs under cars causing all kinds of damage.
Or heck, check out some of the story from the pros in those days. That Art Donovan guy have some pretty good ones if I remember.
Human nature does not change much from era to era.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:33 pm to JdbsLSUBR
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Heisman posing, excessive celebrating, taunting your opponent during a game, calling-out your opponent before a game, etc. are components of the culture of college football that are never going away. Once upon a time, the consensus would've been that these are examples of poor sportsmanship. Such is no longer the case.
Heisman posing - see Desmond Howard (1991). Of course he backed it up, but that's beside the point.
Excessive celebration - started with the Pros in the early 1970s (see Billy White Shoes Johnson) and filtered into the college ranks in the late 1970s. Been there ever since.
Taunting your opponent during a game - see Knute Rockne. I played in the interior line in the 1970s. The things said before and after every play would get you banned from this site and all of that trash talk didn't start with my era.
Calling out your opponent before a game - bulletin board material has been around since the inception of football.
What about the Aflac trivia question during the LSU vs. SH game. What school came and let Mike the Tiger out of his cage. The answer - 1981 when the LSU Police got a call that Mike was seen wandering on North Stadium drive.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:40 pm to NorthTiger
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. The things said before and after every play would get you banned from this site and all of that trash talk didn't start with my era.
that's no shite, I can't believe the things said and done during my HS football games, I was a safety and our d-linemen would spit tobacco on the center's and other linemen's hands trying to get them to move, the n word was the most used word on the field, taunting went unchecked as long as it was verbal with no gesticulating or exaggerated body motions
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:01 pm to OceanMan
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Granted, those guys might have been considered more likely heismen contenders.
I dunno. He has over 100 all purpose yards in his career.
(P.S. I love LF-Think he will be fantastic)
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:03 pm to TigerFanNKaty
quote:How long have YOU been watching football? Do you remember anyone praising the '80s Miami Hurricanes teams' "sportsmanship"?
Dude how long have you watched college football. Do you remember the Miami Hurricanes in the 80s?
Hell, no. People were constantly bitching about what punks and thugs and showoffs they were and how they were eroding the sportsmanship aspect of the sport and inspiring a generation of kids as role models to emulate them and be punks and thugs and showoffs. Clearly, the old fogeys were on to something.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:06 pm to JdbsLSUBR
Cool revisionist history, old man river.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 2:22 pm to 777Tiger
quote:My god, can you people even read? He's not saying they didn't do it, he's saying that when they did do it, it was considered a bad thing. Now it's celebrated, encouraged and idolized. Even when it's done in stupid fashion people are falling all over themselves to excuse it and bash anyone who points out that it was silly.
the only reason there are any celebrating/taunting rules is because of the thugs that were "the U," do you even '80's bro?
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