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The Case for Alleva to get the Ax.........
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:00 am
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:00 am
When will the Board of Supervisors wake up and do something to remove Alleva? The pall he has cast on the major sports at LSU has set us back years, not one of the major (Revenue Generating) sports is better off now than, that it was when he found it.
Football - Teams has vastly underachieved the last several years and we just made a lazy hire based on what some current and former players wanted.
Mens Basketball - Trent Johnson was an epic failure, and Johnny Jones may be worse. How Jones wasn't let go after last seasons disaster, I have no clue. Do we trust Alleva to hire a 3rd?
Womens Basketball - Nikki Fargas' teams have been awful and attendance continues to dwindle.
Baseball - We were put in a moderate pinch by having to replace a top rated hitting coach at the last minute, and the best we could do was get a 30yr old who has never been a full time college assistant before. I know this isn't directly Alleva's fault, but what kind of culture do we have that's an acceptable action?
I'm not even going to get into the perception that the Athletic Department is completely out of touch, and is being run into the ground in administration matters as well.
Football - Teams has vastly underachieved the last several years and we just made a lazy hire based on what some current and former players wanted.
Mens Basketball - Trent Johnson was an epic failure, and Johnny Jones may be worse. How Jones wasn't let go after last seasons disaster, I have no clue. Do we trust Alleva to hire a 3rd?
Womens Basketball - Nikki Fargas' teams have been awful and attendance continues to dwindle.
Baseball - We were put in a moderate pinch by having to replace a top rated hitting coach at the last minute, and the best we could do was get a 30yr old who has never been a full time college assistant before. I know this isn't directly Alleva's fault, but what kind of culture do we have that's an acceptable action?
I'm not even going to get into the perception that the Athletic Department is completely out of touch, and is being run into the ground in administration matters as well.
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:03 am to TJG210
Because we're settlers, son
We settle
We settle
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:04 am to TJG210
They approved of this..what part of that is difficult to understand?
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:05 am to TJG210
Not only this, but LSU is continuously bashed in the media for things that it should not be bashed for. This just proves he has no ability to manage PR. The LSU brand has continuously declined under Alleva.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:05 am to TJG210
Alleva was hire in July. Johnson hired in April.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:06 am to Tiger4Ever
Maybe they should get a little pressure too? Absolutely a disgrace we've gotten to this point.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:08 am to BallChamp00
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Alleva was hire in July. Johnson hired in April.
Wrong. Alleva absolutely hired Johnson.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:10 am to adamb2151
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This just proves he has no ability to manage PR.
Exactly, several gaffes in this regard, the worst being the nutrition center being axed after raising all of the funds for it to be built.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:14 am to adamb2151
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Coaching hires can sometimes be a crapshoot. LSU athletic director Joe Alleva, currently involved in the most important coaching search of his career, knows this all too well. Take his hiring of basketball coach Trent Johnson in 2008, which seemed like a slam dunk given he led Nevada and Stanford to Sweet 16 appearances. But Johnson lasted only four years in Baton Rouge, going 40-56 over his final three seasons. Alleva discussed that hire and the one he’s about to make in an exclusive interview with Tiger Rag magazine published Monday.
LINK
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:19 am to TJG210
I think you have to also throw F. King in there as well. I fully believe he is as much of a problem (if not more) than Alleva.
Since F. King has been at LSU it has been one giant sob story about how "poor" LSU is on the academic side. While budget cuts are never great, I would bet that LSU, just like essentially every other public university in America is bloated with bureaucratic waste. Yet, people in academia NEVER want to make cuts to the budget. That's what happens when the only thing you know how to do is spend other people's (i.e. the taxpayers) money. When all you've ever known is just taking the taxpayers money to pay for your unnecessary costs, it comes as a shock to the system when the taxpayer closes his wallet.
With that as the overall backdrop, F. King DOES NOT want LSU to spend exorbitant amounts of money on the athletic side because simply put, "it looks bad" relative to his woe is me story on the academic end. The problem with that line of thinking is that LSU athletics is a multi-million self sustaining business. Paying a coach huge dollars doesn't hurt the academic side of the coin.
The naive ideologues on the academic side might not like that a football coach gets paid significantly more than a long-time tenured professor, but that's how the free market works. TV networks are paying billions to broadcast Chem 101 classes. Sporting good companies aren't selling huge amounts of apparel based upon the success of a school's landscape architecture program. Companies that sponsor bowl games aren't paying top dollar to bring kids to Orlando to allow the public to watch them take an English Lit test.
Major college athletics is a lucrative business. Rather than bemoan the fact that the football HC makes 20X what the longest tenured professor makes, the academic side should try to benefit from the huge amount of money the athletic side brings in.
Since F. King has been at LSU it has been one giant sob story about how "poor" LSU is on the academic side. While budget cuts are never great, I would bet that LSU, just like essentially every other public university in America is bloated with bureaucratic waste. Yet, people in academia NEVER want to make cuts to the budget. That's what happens when the only thing you know how to do is spend other people's (i.e. the taxpayers) money. When all you've ever known is just taking the taxpayers money to pay for your unnecessary costs, it comes as a shock to the system when the taxpayer closes his wallet.
With that as the overall backdrop, F. King DOES NOT want LSU to spend exorbitant amounts of money on the athletic side because simply put, "it looks bad" relative to his woe is me story on the academic end. The problem with that line of thinking is that LSU athletics is a multi-million self sustaining business. Paying a coach huge dollars doesn't hurt the academic side of the coin.
The naive ideologues on the academic side might not like that a football coach gets paid significantly more than a long-time tenured professor, but that's how the free market works. TV networks are paying billions to broadcast Chem 101 classes. Sporting good companies aren't selling huge amounts of apparel based upon the success of a school's landscape architecture program. Companies that sponsor bowl games aren't paying top dollar to bring kids to Orlando to allow the public to watch them take an English Lit test.
Major college athletics is a lucrative business. Rather than bemoan the fact that the football HC makes 20X what the longest tenured professor makes, the academic side should try to benefit from the huge amount of money the athletic side brings in.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:21 am to TJG210
LSU has a Butterface in the eyes of coaches. Incredible body, perfect… but Joe Alleva is the AD.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:34 am to SoulGlo
No doubt Alleva should go, but anyone who gave this "search" a stamp of approval should also be subjected to same.
Someone should have stepped in and demanded a true search or pushed for Joe'a removal from the process and termination.
Someone should have stepped in and demanded a true search or pushed for Joe'a removal from the process and termination.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:34 am to TJG210
I posted this on another thread but thought it really belongs here.....
The real problem is Joe Alleva AND the goobers he has surrounded himself with as advisors. Take a look at the two "deputy athletic directors" and the two "senior associate athletic directors."
Nunez = graduate of Miami-Dade Community College, his specialty is game day management/dealing with ticket takers and concessions. Nunez is Joe's #1 advisor (because he is listed above Verge on the staff page). This guy is NOT equipped to advise Joe on anything other than hamburgers and hot dogs. You can always tell about the character of people by watching how they treat those below them. I have witnessed Nunez and Ausberry verbally abusing VERY low level employees.....very sad, and telling.
Eddie Nunez
Verge Ausberry
Mark Ewing
Miriam Segar
Joe is just an average guy who happens to be in a job WAY OVER HIS HEAD. When he gets into a major issue (hiring BB coach, FB coach, etc.), he gets caught up in public perception, blogs, etc. This combined with the goober squad he has surrounding him and you have our current situation. When dealing with Sexton, Herman, Jimbo, etc., Joe Alleva is playing checkers while the others are playing chess.
The real problem is Joe Alleva AND the goobers he has surrounded himself with as advisors. Take a look at the two "deputy athletic directors" and the two "senior associate athletic directors."
Nunez = graduate of Miami-Dade Community College, his specialty is game day management/dealing with ticket takers and concessions. Nunez is Joe's #1 advisor (because he is listed above Verge on the staff page). This guy is NOT equipped to advise Joe on anything other than hamburgers and hot dogs. You can always tell about the character of people by watching how they treat those below them. I have witnessed Nunez and Ausberry verbally abusing VERY low level employees.....very sad, and telling.
Eddie Nunez
Verge Ausberry
Mark Ewing
Miriam Segar
Joe is just an average guy who happens to be in a job WAY OVER HIS HEAD. When he gets into a major issue (hiring BB coach, FB coach, etc.), he gets caught up in public perception, blogs, etc. This combined with the goober squad he has surrounding him and you have our current situation. When dealing with Sexton, Herman, Jimbo, etc., Joe Alleva is playing checkers while the others are playing chess.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:42 am to U571
LSU Board of Supervisors
These are the people that need to really look at Joe A and decide if he has done his job.
These are the people that need to really look at Joe A and decide if he has done his job.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:46 am to Alt26
I think it is more F. King but both need to be fired along with the folks in student affairs who are stirring up the messes.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:42 pm to TJG210
An upgrade at AD is essential. It is a must and needs to be done before he hires anyone else. To be honest, we will probably have to hire men's and women's basketball coaches within the next season. The Coach O tenure will be probably be fine next season given that Aranda stays and he hires a competent OC (we could still win 9-10 games with Ensminger as OC) but after that it is up in the air, IMO. The strength of coordinator hiring will be the key in our future success but, that could be said for most coaches.
Joe has proven that he can't hire worth a shite and that negotiating is not a strength. He PR nightmare with the way he handled Miles, last season and this season, and the way the Florida game was handled.
It's time to move in a different direction from Joe. I say go hard after Tom Jurich at U of Louisville. That guy can hire good coaches as he shown over his 15+ years there.
Football:
John L Smith (41-21 in 5 seasons; Michigan St. hired)
Bobby Petrino (41-9 in 4 seasons; Atlanta Falcons hired)
Steve Kragthorpe (15-21 in 3 seasons; fired)
Charlie Strong (37-15 in 4 seasons; Texas hired)
Bobby Petrino (67-21 in 3 seasons)
Basketball:
Rick Pitino (391-132 in 15 seasons)
Baseball:
Dan McDonnell (456-191 in 10 seasons)
Other lesser-followed sports are competing for championships. Bottomline: this guy is worth his weight in gold.
Joe has proven that he can't hire worth a shite and that negotiating is not a strength. He PR nightmare with the way he handled Miles, last season and this season, and the way the Florida game was handled.
It's time to move in a different direction from Joe. I say go hard after Tom Jurich at U of Louisville. That guy can hire good coaches as he shown over his 15+ years there.
Football:
John L Smith (41-21 in 5 seasons; Michigan St. hired)
Bobby Petrino (41-9 in 4 seasons; Atlanta Falcons hired)
Steve Kragthorpe (15-21 in 3 seasons; fired)
Charlie Strong (37-15 in 4 seasons; Texas hired)
Bobby Petrino (67-21 in 3 seasons)
Basketball:
Rick Pitino (391-132 in 15 seasons)
Baseball:
Dan McDonnell (456-191 in 10 seasons)
Other lesser-followed sports are competing for championships. Bottomline: this guy is worth his weight in gold.
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