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The Big 3 issues with this football team

Posted on 10/18/15 at 9:50 am
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 9:50 am
as I see them...

#1-obviously kick off and punt coverage. somehow this has morphed into "rocket science"

#2- pass coverage. yea, we are supposed to have great db's but they look lost in zone coverage way too often for this stage of the season.

#3- coaching with the lead. i'm a big Miles guy but I could have choked him last night. we come out of the locker room with a TWO TOUCHDOWN LEAD and go 3 straight 3 and outs. If we would have scored a TD on our first possession it would have been 35 to 14 about midway thru the third. florida didn't seem to make any great adjustments, we just quit running the crossing routes and quit passing the ball completely.

imo, these are 3 flaws that will prevent us from winning the SEC unless fixed. I doubt #3 will ever get fixed. miles is who he is; "gimme a lead and i'm gonna run the clock out no matter how much time is on that clock".
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45150 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 9:54 am to
Yup

1. Special teams

2. Secondary

3. Thinking the game is over when we have a multiple TD lead. It's like our team says, "well shite, our work is done here". They've done it almost every game, and it's absolutely aggravating. This WILL lose us a game if they keep it up.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22780 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 9:58 am to
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Thinking the game is over when we have a multiple TD lead. It's like our team says, "well shite, our work is done here". They've done it almost every game, and it's absolutely aggravating. This WILL lose us a game if they keep it up.


A bit of devils advocate here. Yes it is going to cost us a game. But how many has it won us? How many times would being UNconservative cost us the game. I keep hearing it is going to cost us and the method keeps producing W's!
Posted by Barracuda
Jonesborough, TN
Member since Oct 2012
536 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 9:59 am to
Besides that really long good concentration (lucky) catch and the long post, the only passes that worked were the same plays: a roll out to sideline and a very well designed te wheel route. Definetly need Mills back
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:00 am to
Yeah, if we do it against a Top 10 team with a great defense we will no doubt lose...wait....
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28370 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:02 am to
1 and 2 can be fixed. 3 won't be. The frustrating part about the second half was that LSU abandoned a passing game that was WORKING with good success in the first half.

Miles coaches "not to lose" when he has the lead. Obviously LF is your horse, but there was no reason to completely abandon the passing game. Like so many UF games before, this was a night where LSU clearly was the better team, yet UF still had a chance to win late.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17319 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:03 am to
Pretty much sums it up. There is a lot to fix before the Bama game.
Posted by Bulletproof Lover
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
1900 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:03 am to
As to #3, half time leads mean nothing at this level. All it proves is the other team showed up.
Posted by lsu mike
Gonzales
Member since Sep 2006
8580 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:05 am to
Was like watching two totally different offensive teams compared to first and second halves. Just don't know why miles insists on mailing it in early when things were finally clicking so well with the offense.
Posted by Blktiger
Spartanburg, South Carolina
Member since May 2015
1169 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:05 am to
I said last night, I think every loves raymond, but something seems off with the dbs this yr. I don't know if it's grouping or what
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:05 am to
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As to #3, half time leads mean nothing at this level. All it proves is the other team showed up.



Yep. Florida is a real football team with coaches that can make adjustments at half. Some people kid themselves that we should be hanging 60 on the 8th ranked team.
Posted by Barracuda
Jonesborough, TN
Member since Oct 2012
536 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:07 am to
That first drive in the second half was stalled right away by a holding penalty. I would like to see it again because it seemed like the ref threw the flag right when the ball was snapped?
Posted by lsu mike
Gonzales
Member since Sep 2006
8580 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:08 am to
Florida did not adjust that much. It was lsu's offense that adjusted and went back into run run pass punt mode. Reason Florida was able to stop it so easily was because it was obvious what was going to happen.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422567 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:08 am to
well we made adjustments, too

it's just those adjustments were to take the air out of the ball and play "hold on" football
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22780 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:10 am to
I noticed that as well.
Posted by Blktiger
Spartanburg, South Carolina
Member since May 2015
1169 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:13 am to
Keehn is probably the biggest punter in college, I don't understand why he doesn't have the leg strength
Posted by touchdown moses
eunice, LA
Member since Nov 2009
6024 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:13 am to
Special teams is the main issue i have with this team.
we need to find a replacement for jefferson imo. that battle kid looks like a player, i think he should see more of the field
yes they are not the most dominant defense LSU has ever fielded but i enjoy watching this defense play much more then the last few years that lsu statistically ranked very high.
its not how many yards you give up, its when you give them up and getting big stops at the end of games when all the cards are out on the table.
LSU has a damn strong squad this year and im loving every minute of it!
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:15 am to
quote:

That first drive in the second half was stalled right away by a holding penalty.


Yep. Having to gain 20 yards with possession football is not something we should be doing.

Keep the defense off the field is the name of our game. For good reason, not sure if it is youth, but, at times, the defense has struggled when they spend lots of time on the field.
Posted by touchdown moses
eunice, LA
Member since Nov 2009
6024 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:19 am to
quote:

Keep the defense off the field is the name of our game. For good reason, not sure if it is youth, but, at times, the defense has struggled when they spend lots of time on the field.

agreed
i feel like they struggle the most when we have a lead and the opponent goes pass heavy. it should get better with pressure like they started putting on florida last night.
im impressed with the stoutness of our interior DLine at the point of attack. very strong kids in the middle, good to see.

Neil does a great job at setting the edge and containing it.. beautiful thing!
This post was edited on 10/18/15 at 10:20 am
Posted by Dissident Aggressor
Member since Aug 2011
3780 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:20 am to
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we need to find a replacement for jefferson imo

I don't know that he needs to be replaced but, he sure did not play well last night
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