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Syracuse, New England?

Posted on 9/24/15 at 11:58 pm
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9037 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 11:58 pm
The Advocate thinks so:
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Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:05 am to
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England and the Netherlands spent a lot of the 17th century duking it out over who would get to control trade routes with the colonies. New Netherland and the New England Confederation sorta even fought against each other in the Second Anglo-Dutch War... which ended in 1664 with a treaty that granted England control of New Netherland (and they promptly renamed it New York).


guess it was new england for a little bit.
Posted by nicksaur3
Madisonville, Tennessee
Member since Aug 2015
1261 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:06 am to
New England States
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9037 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:10 am to
Syracuse is in New York. New York is not a part of New England. New England is a region comprising the states of Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Connecticut and Rhode Island.
This post was edited on 9/25/15 at 12:15 am
Posted by NotRight37
Nashville, TN
Member since Jul 2014
5843 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:18 am to
geauxnavybeatbama, good save attempt. Here is hoping the Advocate staff are better at their predictions than geography.
Posted by O
Mandeville
Member since Oct 2011
6459 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:34 am to
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 5:03 am to
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Syracuse is in New York. New York is not a part of New England. New England is a region comprising the states of Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Connecticut and Rhode Island.


today you are correct. but back in the beginning of this country the state of new York was part of new England. in fact, new England came close to seceding from the fledgling country called the united states on two occasions, the most serious in the Jefferson administration when he bought Louisiana. "new England" didn't want all those catholics in the union. new York stymied the movement, new England stayed in the U.S. and new York was not considered new England again.

ergo, your current definition of new England is historically incorrect.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6373 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 7:24 am to
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Connecticut


A lot of people in New England would argue this point.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73144 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 7:26 am to
the southwestern counties of CT are very much NOT New England
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52148 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 7:35 am to
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The Advocate thinks so:



The Advocate also printed this:

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2. All-time greats

Running back Ernie Davis, a two-time All-American, became the first African-American to win the Heisman Trophy when he captured it in 1961. Sadly, he died two years later from leukemia. The Carrier Dome’s field is named for Davis, whose story is told in the 2008 movie “The Express,” which took its title from Davis’ nickname, the “Elmira Express.” As great as Davis was, football legend Jim Brown was Syracuse’s best all-around athlete. Brown, who became a Pro Football Hall of Famer and a young Les Miles’ idol with the Cleveland Browns, earned 10 varsity letters in football, basketball, lacrosse and track. Running back Floyd Little was Syracuse football’s only three-time All-American (1964-66) and was followed by Larry Csonka, a two-time All-American (1966-67) who went on to star at running back for the unbeaten 1972 Miami Dolphins. Both are also Pro Football Hall of Famers. Wide receiver Quadry “The Missile” Ismail, a 1991 All-American who returned kicks for the Saints in 1998, is probably Syracuse’s greatest player of the last 25 years.
without even mentioning Donovan McNabb
This post was edited on 9/25/15 at 7:37 am
Posted by SOL
Garland, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2950 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 7:41 am to
NY is not considered New England. NE is a region which comprises six states of the Northeastern United States: Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and Vermont. [b]It is bordered by New York to the west.

They were close. I'm sure SU fans will have fun with that
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
12884 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 7:51 am to
We should have let New England go. People up there are generally miserable.
Posted by ULSU
Tasmania
Member since Jan 2014
3931 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 8:02 am to
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without even mentioning Donovan McNabb


Or Marvin Harrison, Dwight Freeney. Will Allen and Donovan Darius both played overy a decade in the League. Syracuse has had some very very good individual players throughout its history.

And no, New York is not New England by today's definition.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63525 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 8:13 am to
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And no, New York is not New England by today's definition.


Technically true. Although Syracuse is pretty damned close.
Posted by pellietigersaint
Tiger Stadium
Member since Aug 2005
19043 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 8:16 am to
take this shite to the "who gives a frick" board
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13085 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 8:38 am to
New York is not now nor has it ever been considered part of New England. Originally it was part of Dutch New Netherlands which, in 1664, became the English colonies of New York and New Jersey.
Posted by DenverTigerMan
Denver
Member since Nov 2005
2273 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 8:59 am to
I thought the same thing when I read it this morning.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33940 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 9:01 am to
Wow, those guys need to get out of Louisiana more.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33940 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 9:03 am to
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today you are correct. but back in the beginning of this country the state of new York was part of new England.


I think you guys may be exaggerating this point. "New England" was never a thing in the legal sense.

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in fact, new England came close to seceding from the fledgling country called the united states on two occasions


This point is a non-sequitur. It is not related to the question of whether New York was part of New England.

Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9037 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 9:17 am to
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today you are correct. but back in the beginning of this country the state of new York was part of new England

Ok, when we go to play Texas A&M we are going to Mexico. This is not a big deal and many people probably don't know which states are a part of New England but a major news paper author should know.
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