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Posted on 2/17/11 at 10:22 am to Topwater Trout
I love how people say that the solution would be to be to fire TJ. If we fire TJ who would you want to replace him? It's not like Tom Izzo is itching for the LSU gig to become available.
Posted on 2/17/11 at 10:23 am to LNCHBOX
Go back and read the root of the JJ and TJ comparison. You're out of the loop.
Posted on 2/17/11 at 10:26 am to Trent
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You're out of the loop.
One can actually win a game, the other seems incapable. I think I got it.
TJ needs to go. His ways aren't working.
Posted on 2/17/11 at 10:28 am to Circle K Beggar
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If we fire TJ who would you want to replace him?
Anyone that will do something different. I couldn't care less who. TJ is cementing that he is no good here.
Posted on 2/17/11 at 10:33 am to LNCHBOX
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TJ is cementing that he is no good here.
Yeah his first year sucked.
I will say though that last year was bad, but we also lost a ton of people.
This year squad has been a disappointment, no doubt about it. However, you can't deny that Turner and Derenbecker look promising.
As for next year, we get our 1st McD's All-American since Taz, and we pick up Hamilton and Isaac.
I honestly believe that with this year's squad, Brady would have the same record.
Posted on 2/17/11 at 10:34 am to Circle K Beggar
As opposed to your solution which is give him time right? Why? How much time is appropriate? LSU bb is at its lowest level I have seen and the league isn't even that good.
Would you say that Trent is doing an excellent job and there aren't many coaches that could have this team playing better?
Would you say that Trent is doing an excellent job and there aren't many coaches that could have this team playing better?
Posted on 2/17/11 at 10:34 am to LNCHBOX
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Anyone that will do something different.
This will have you doing what you're doing for many years to come then my friend. Change doesn't happen over night. I agree that the team is piss poor. I disagree with those whom do not support our coach.
Posted on 2/17/11 at 10:37 am to Trent
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I disagree with those whom do not support our coach.
Shouldn't he put something on the floor to support? His job is to get the most out of what he has....IMO he hasn't come close to doing his job. It isn't just about losing it is the product on the court also.
Posted on 2/17/11 at 10:38 am to Trent
I think by next year we will know everything there is to know about TJ.
Posted on 2/17/11 at 10:43 am to Topwater Trout
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If they had message boards when Curley was coach he would have gotten support from fans saying we should back the coach just because he is coaching LSU but sometimes the people who are not supporting the coach are right.
Well, there is nothing wrong in supporting a coach in bad times if that is your want.
Curley never coached a SEC champion team as TJ has and that is a big difference between the two.
After 08, everyone should have have known things were going to get worse before they got better. Now, I didn't think it would get this bad, but I knew bad times were a coming.
I'm gonna hold off any decision on TJ till next year. If it is more of the same, then we have a problem which needs to be addressed.
Posted on 2/17/11 at 10:48 am to Trent
Dude if you would spend your time coming up with good plays and ways to make your team better than hanging out on TD.com wasting time the teams chances of winning would go up and thus lead to fans getting behind you.
Posted on 2/17/11 at 10:48 am to Topwater Trout
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Shouldn't he put something on the floor to support?
Absolutely, and he's not. What you said earlier about effort is true too, but in their defense, they are very young. I guess what he is doing is putting some young guys on the floor that work together. There isn't a whole lot of selfish play out there. Hopefully in time they'll grow into something. I think a lot of the people that supported the revamp w/ 3-4 year players are quick to run and hide after a couple of poor seasons. He's recruited well of late, and there is some potential there. So yes, he needs to put a good product on the floor, but he's building from scratch. If this continues over the next couple of years the AD will take care of the coaching problem if there is one...
This post was edited on 2/17/11 at 10:50 am
Posted on 2/17/11 at 10:50 am to Lonnie4LSU
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Well, there is nothing wrong in supporting a coach in bad times if that is your want.
Curley never coached a SEC champion team as TJ has and that is a big difference between the two.
After 08, everyone should have have known things were going to get worse before they got better. Now, I didn't think it would get this bad, but I knew bad times were a coming.
I'm gonna hold off any decision on TJ till next year. If it is more of the same, then we have a problem which needs to be addressed.
I really don't have a problem with people choosing to support him. It is more of a problem with those people calling out the fanbase b/c they aren't supportive. Some people aren't as patient as others. FB isking and bb is 2nd fiddle or depending on the fan 3rd fiddle at LSU.
Posted on 2/17/11 at 10:50 am to Trent
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Dude if you would spend your time coming up with good plays and ways to make your team better than hanging out on TD.com wasting time the teams chances of winning would go up and thus lead to fans getting behind you.
I had to read this several times to comprehend. Wow! Grammar check please.
Posted on 2/17/11 at 11:07 am to Topwater Trout
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It is more of a problem with those people calling out the fanbase b/c they aren't supportive.
That happens on both sides of an issue.
I recall threads "calling out" Miles supporters or JJ supporters or JL supporters and on and on.
It's all personal opinion and rarely is there a right or wrong. You like red beans and rice and I like chicken and dumpling....it is what it is...opinion driven.
Posted on 2/17/11 at 11:19 am to Lonnie4LSU
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You like red beans and rice and I like chicken and dumpling....it is what it is...opinion driven.
i like both lol
Posted on 2/17/11 at 11:23 am to LNCHBOX
quote:That is precisely how we got where we are now . . .
Anyone that will do something different. I couldn't care less who.
Whether that will turn out to be a good thing in the long run, who knows. But right at this moment I am particularly reminded of posing the same question to those who wanted Brady fired, and getting responses like, "it couldn't get any worse!" and "ANYONE would do a better job than Brady has!"
Firing a coach (like any other firing) is never simply a matter of how well/badly they are performing; it is about whether the situation will be better after firing them than it would be if you keep them. Many on here insisted that the situation HAD to be improved by firing Brady because it couldn't *possibly* get any worse. Some of them are now describing LSU's program in terms such as "lowest point ever" and "worst it's ever been."
And as bad as it is now, I am again inclined to remind people that it could indeed get still worse. So unless a better option actually presents itself, firing Johnson is not necessarily the smart move.
Posted on 2/17/11 at 11:24 am to Trent
Ok let me make it simple for you then.
DO YOUR JOB COACH and get off of TD.com and maybe the team will lose by 15 instead of 20..
Baby Steps...
DO YOUR JOB COACH and get off of TD.com and maybe the team will lose by 15 instead of 20..
Baby Steps...
Posted on 2/17/11 at 12:35 pm to Catman88
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Catman88
Much better Mr. 25,400 post guy.
We'd be National Champs if you drew up the plays other than dicking off all damn day on TD.
I love asshats!
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